April 27 conference call notes

[Keith Swenson <KSwenson@us.fujitsu.com>]

Attendees:

• Keith Swenson
• Mayilraj Krishnan
• John Fuller
• Justin Brunt

Discussion Points

• New version of Spec available (thank you Mayilraj!)  we should make this publicly available.  I have attached a document showing the differences (changes) that Mayilraj made.  It is a lot of work, and a good improvement.
• Issue: demo client message body problem, a fix is available for this, to be installed today or tomorrow.
• Issue: authentication of HTTP request.  Need to decide proper course.  Spec says we support security of the lower layers, which includes HTTP authentication, but Jeff Cohen is unsure how to integrate this into the .Net framework that he is using.  We probably need to disable authentication for the interop, but we need to have an answer for the long term.  Alternative is WS-Security, but nobody on the call had experience with this.
• Issue: GetInstanceProperties & GetFactoryProperties - GetProperties, as sepcified is appropriate solution for now.  John will raise this for discussion if he is still uncomfortable with this in the long term.
• Issue: WSRF, GRID forum.  Resource Properties looks good (see separate message on this topic) but dependence upon WS-Addressing is a critical roadblock.  Keith has sent a message to David Snelling about this.
• Issue: There is an XML schema pattern to restrict things.  WSDM discussion on states:  Is it URLs or is it QNames?   URLs can have signatures.  Right now we just have strings, and that is OK, but what about the future.  Have seen URN that is hierarchical.
• Issue: WSDL interface, making it part of the spec.  Currently not in specification at all.  There is WSDL at source forge and another with Jeff Cohen.  Need to resolve differences.  Broke into factory and instance.  Implementation issues with types of clients that use this.  Huge number of issues when encountering document models, and such.  Need some WSDL so ti can be used, but issues cause there to be several different WSDL document.  Mayilraj will look into this.
• Issue: Demo preparations are moving forward.  We have more than 1000 observers signed up.  We still need a participant brochure.  Staffware will be implementing the protocol,and participating in the demonstration.
• Issue: Interop scenario: two scenarios: a simple order process for ASAP, ddata goes in, doe some processing, and return.  Published the output from XML spy from that, and can publish the schema.  The other side is the interoperability of WfXML with multiple partners.  We have a schema ... looks like it needs to be simplified.

Meeting ended 11:12 am pacific time.

-Keith Swenson

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