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Subject: RE: [bcm] Brochure Draft; An opportunity to put into practice the BCM process
Neil,
The 60k is only for large agencies and integrators. The SAIL program has a lower threashold for small businesses, non-profits and consultants that also puts much value on non-cash contributions in kind (IP, bodies, etc). As this is a public/private partnership, the SAIL teams need to match the resources contributed by the govt. In many cases, the SAIL partners will find the later flow of funds to be incoming not outgoing, as this is a fee for service model.
Regarding vendor preferences, when looking closely at the SAIL and ICH vetting models, they have been proven to be more agnostic than most standards efforts as everything is evidensed based.
I suggest that the BCM team help build out the SAIL process to make sure we are leveraging your work, and visa versa. As we are focused on solving real world problems, (big ones), we believe the SAIL process will find both the strengths and weaknesses of many frameworks, including OMBs.
FYI, the concepts that SAIL are using have been in practices since 1999 and have been successfully applied (meaning solutions were deployed), for 6 major programs in both govt and industry. We are looking for more standardized templates (ebXML, MDA) to use that will improve communications between stake holders. The ICH Solution Portal will be on line soon, and will instantiate these reference models.
Cheers
john
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John,
To add to what David is suggesting ...
I am also in favor of accelerating the process of putting BCM concepts into practice and using existing practice to inform BCM methods. It also seems to be to be a good idea to have a more active connection between BCM and your SAIL program if that is what you are proposing. There seems to be a $60,000 barrier to entry in terms of such participation, however. It is also important that BCM remain agnostic with regard to vendor preferences. What would you suggest as the best way to link the efforts?
With respect to the OMB reference models, my intuition is that BCM is like the PRM (Performance Reference Model) in that it touches the other reference models, particularly the Business Reference Model, Data Reference Model, and Service Component Reference Model. It informs all of these models from a community of interest perspective.
There is more than enough challenge, work and risk in these efforts to go around. So I am all in favor of learning from others' experience and sharing the burden.
Neil
From: David RR Webber
[mailto:david@drrw.info] John,
OASIS is very clear on this all.
If you feel you have implementations that conform to an OASIS specification then you can notify that technical committee about the conforming implementation.
So far we have one that we've been made aware of - the eprXML work from Norway - and we are working with that team to develop BCM templates from that that will be publically available.
If you have indeed taken the OASIS specification and applied to it your project(s) then I'm sure we'd welcome the feedback on what worked, and where the gap analysis is.
And we'd be especially interested in showcasing the resulting BCM templates and other artifacts from the project(s) that illustrate the work done.
We are also beginning to work with other groups that have expressed interest - one I can mention is CUNY in New York and their Center for XML - where they are actively looking at BCM activities that may fit their program there.
The other of course is the OASIS eGov TC - and jointly developing examples of BCM templates for specific government domains.
So it seems to me that one path forward would be to take whatever products SAIL has done - and cast those into BCM templates - as Word and Excel documents for instance - that we can then review and verify that in fact they are applying BCM principles and techniques.
This then has the benefit of providing back into those projects BCM artifacts that conform to an open public standard accredited by OASIS.
With the eprXML project we started by reviewing PPT materials and specification and project overview materials that showed how BCM principles are being actively integrated into the development of the project.
Perhaps you can share with us similar overview materials?
Thanks, DW.
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