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Subject: RE: (Per Mark Hale), RE: ebXML in W3C? and OASIS Business Transactiongroup
Mark, Given that you have some history in both groups I would think that you are a required attendee for a joint call. =bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark A. Hale [mailto:mark.hale@interwoven.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:48 PM > To: Pal Takacsi-Nagy; BTP > Subject: FW: (Per Mark Hale), RE: ebXML in W3C? and OASIS Business > Transactiongroup > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark A. Hale [mailto:mark.hale@interwoven.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:37 PM > > To: Bob Haugen; 'James Bryce Clark' > > Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; 'Peter Furniss'; 'Eric Newcomer' > > Subject: RE: (Per Mark Hale), RE: ebXML in W3C? and OASIS Business > > Transactiongroup > > > > > > Bob, > > > > I would be happy to arrange a telecon. I will be out next week. > > If 7/17 9am works into everyone's schedule, I can arrange > the lines. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > (Sorry - I can't post to the complete reply list because I don't > > have privalages on ebxml-bp.) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob Haugen [mailto:linkage@interaccess.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:25 PM > > > To: 'James Bryce Clark'; ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org > > > Cc: mark.hale@interwoven.com; karl.best@oasis-open.org; > 'Peter Furniss'; > > > 'Eric Newcomer' > > > Subject: RE: (Per Mark Hale), RE: ebXML in W3C? and OASIS Business > > > Transactiongroup > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in a dispassionate conversation about how > > > those who know both BTP and the ebXML-BP + UMM transaction > > > protocol think the two compare and contrast. (The comparers > > > would need to understand the UMM transaction patterns as > > > well as BPSS, and don't get hung up on choreography details.) > > > > > > In other words, set aside anything accusatory, e.g. words > > > like "conflict" and precedence and MOUs and see how the two > > > initiatives might relate. Then we can get all mad at each > > other later.8-) > > > > > > My first impressions were that BTP covers a lot of the > same ground, > > > even to the same idea of transactional behavior from the viewpoint > > > of the initiator. As UN/CEFACT ebWG gets into > collaboration patterns, > > > the area of overlap will be larger. > > > > > > We've just had Jean-Jacques Dubray do a detailed comparison and > > > binding between ebXML BPSS and BPML. Something similar needs > > > to be done with the other collaboration choreography initiatives. > > > > > > -Bob Haugen > > > > > > (What was that quote about standards being wonderful because > > > there were so many of them?) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Bryce Clark [SMTP:jamie.clark@mmiec.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:53 PM > > > To: ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org > > > Cc: mark.hale@interwoven.com; karl.best@oasis-open.org > > > Subject: (Per Mark Hale), RE: ebXML in W3C? and OASIS > > > Business Transactiongroup > > > > > > Forwarding this to the BP list from Mark Hale's post to > the BTP list. > > > > > > At 03:32 PM 7/5/01, Mark A. Hale wrote: > > > >Karl, > > > > > > > >I would just like to further support your stance that this is > > > not duplicate > > > >effort with ebXML. > > > > > > > >As an organization that endorsed the BTP submission and also > > > being the ebXML > > > >POC co-chair at the same time, I reviewed the submission as > > > being entirely > > > >complementary to ebXML. I fielded calls from other ebXML > > > organizations in > > > >the interim between submission and the start date in March. > > Most of the > > > >discussion emphasized that this technology does > integrate into ebXML. > > > >However, ebXML was on a schedule for May and it was not > feasible to > > > >introduce the topic and maintain the final date. ebXML has been > > > considered > > > >from the start. Conversely, BTP is nearing the end of its short > > > life-cycle > > > >and I would offer that we evaluate its direction at the final > > > f2f to be held > > > >later this month. > > > > > > > >I do not have post privileges on the ebxml-bp mailing list. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word > > > "unsubscribe" in the body to: ebxml-bp-request@lists.ebxml.org >
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