[business-transaction] Minutes of BTP conference call, 1 November 2001

[Peter Furniss <peter.furniss@choreology.com>]

Minutes of BTP conference call, 1 November 2001

Attendees:

- Mark Hale, Interwoven
- James Tauber, Bowstreet
- Alex Ceponkus, individual
- Alex Berson, Entrust
- Mark Little, HP
- Alastair Green, Choreology
- Peter Furniss, Choreology  (minute taker)
- Jim Webber, HP
- Steve White, SeeBeyon
- Bill Pope, individual
- Mark Potts, Talking Blocks
- Sazi Temel, BEA
- Sanjay Dalal, BEA
- Alan Davis, See Beyond
- Pyounguk Cho, Iona
- Gordon Hamilton, Applied Theory

  (16 voting members)

========= non-voting ============
- Karl Best, OASIS
- Bill Cox, BEA
- Mike Abbott, CodeMetamorphosis
- Tony Fletcher, Choreology

(It subsequently transpired that Mike Abbott became a full member
immediately after
the end of the previous meeting, and he should have been counted in the
votes)

1. Election of new chairman

Pal Takasci-Nagy having resigned as chairman, Karl Best conducted the
election of a
replacement. He explained the responsibilities of the chair as:

- organizing meetings
- conducting meetings
- ensure committee follows OASIS process
- responsible for secretarial matters (usually delegated)
- mailing lists (now handled by OASIS secretariat)
- spec editorship (can be delegated)
- keep things running smoothly
- act as contact with Karl Best

	Bill Pope had volunteered to stand by email
	Mark Potts also volunteered at the meeting

10 votes for Bill Pope
6 votes for Mark Potts

Bill Pope was declared Chair, and took over for the rest of the meeting

2. Motions

Mark Hale had proposed:

	1.  We open an issues list based on the draft specification 0.9

	2.  The issues list is closed to additions on Nov 15.

Peter Furniss had proposed:

	3. as Mark Little suggested, get 1.0 wrapped up before Christmas
(Mark said final text on 7 Dec, vote 14 Dec), on the scope as agreed and the
base of 0.9

	4. extend the already agreed charter for continuation
(agreed at San Jose and included in the spec, copied below)
to study new requirements and proposals for inclusion in a
future edition of BTP (with the intent that this should
begin from when we have approved 1.0 as committee specification).


Discussion on these overlapping motions caused them to
be rearranged somewhat. The following proposals were made:

a) Open an issues list based draft specification 0.9
	Proposer: Mark Hale, Seconder: Mark Potts

	Discussion:

	Bill Cox - we should separate editorial issues from technical issues.
    	Alastair Green - agreeable, provided editors can decide if an editorial
   issue should be moved to the technical issue list.

   	Differences between 0.6 v 0.9 (raised at the previous meeting)
      - Peter had circulated an explanation of the changes between
      the versions; Sazi Temel (who had raised the issue) was now
      content to use 0.9 as the basis.

   	The motion was approved without dissent.


* Action: Peter to send out detailed description of adding an issue to
  the issues list.  To add to the issues list send email to Peter.
  Peter will assign a number and email this out to the bt-spec list.


b) Close the list to new technical issues on 15 November
	Proposer: Mark Hale, Seconder: Mark Little

	Approved without dissent

Arising from that discussion, it was the consensus that:

	Members are very strongly encouraged to submit issues
      prior to the next meeting on 8th November.

c) The 8th November meeting should decide the deadline for
 production of the 1.0 spec
    Proposer: Alastair Green, Seconder: Mark Little

    Withdrawn from vote as a motion for this meeting, but
    agreed that this would be on the agenda, and a vote
    called (possibly to be an email vote) at the next meeting.

Arising from the discussion

	How are email votes conducted under OASIS ?
		(Secretary's answer: see oasis procedures for detail. BTP agreed at 16
August
		(see minutes) that we would allow email votes, and they would have a one
		week ballot period)
	Can there be mixed email and present votes ?

d) 	There should be a separate list of editorial issues, which would remain
open
    until just prior to completion of the spec.
	Proposer: Bill Pope (on behalf of observer Bill Cox), Seconder: Alastair
Green

	Approved without dissent

e)  Extend the already agreed charter for the continuation of the BTP TC to
study
    new requirements and proposals for inclusion in a future edition of BTP
(with the
    intent that this should being from when we have approved 1.0 as a
committee
    specification
    Proposer: Peter Furniss, Seconder: Alastair Green

    Discusion:
    	This would allow a resolution of "deferred" for technical issues - and
any
    	"leftovers" from that list would be candidates for inclusion in the new
edition

    	It was re-affirmed that the TC would continue after the 1.0 spec was
delivered


    	Sazi Temel: This is somewhat related to the technical issues list. The
question
    	should be deferred.

    The motion was withdrawn for consideration at this meeting.