Re: [business-transaction] Updated Minutes for 16 January 2002

[Geoffrey Brown <Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com>]

Bill,

William Bathurst was standing in for myself due to a meeting clash.

Geoff.


William Cox wrote:

> BTP Meeting Minutes 16 January 2002 (updated version)
> (Raw notes from Bill Bathurst, Bill Cox)
>
> Agenda:
>
>   Issues Votes
>   Timeframe/Schedule Discussions
>   Primer Outline
>
> Attendees:
> Members:
>    Bill Cox
>    Alex Ceponkus
>    Peter Furniss
>    Victor Corrales
>    Tony Fletcher
>    Sanjay Dalal
>    Pyounguk Cho
>    Mark Little
>    Steve White
>    Alex Berson
>    Gordon Hamilton
>    Sazi Temel
>    Jim Webber
>    Steve Viens
>    Doug Bunting
> (Bill Pope could not attend; Bill Cox chaired the meeting.)
>
> Observer:
>    Bill Bathurst, Oracle.
>
> Selected Document Issues and proposed resolutions were discussed, and
> all but one accepted by unanimous consent:
>
>   #7  Accepted
>   #57 Accepted
>   #62 Accepted
>   #79 Accepted
>   #80 Accepted
>   #82 Deferred. Anyone who was involved in this discussion *should*
>       use the BTP mailing list to further articulate their ideas,
> suggestions,etc.
>   #83 Accepted
>   #84 Accepted
>   #85 Accepted
>   #86 Accepted
>
> Timeframes/Schedule:
>
> There was a spirited discussion on realistic timeframes for finishing a
> committee draft. This agenda item was present to get us to start
> examining a realistic schedule for the endgame of BTP 1.0.  No formal
> votes were take, so notes below indicate the sense of the meeting.
> Straw man proposal for discussion:
>
> * Model and Primer required for D 0.95 and later
> * Complete Draft 0.95 end of February (and stop modifying the draft for
> review)
> * Face-to-face, probably at Oracle, in March (dates TBD, 3-4 weeks after
>
> stable D 0.95)
> * Complete updated Draft 0.99 reflecting committee review mid-April,
> suitable for broader review
> * 4 week review period ending mid-May
> * Committee Draft with issues resolved or listed as open, end of May
>
> Summary of discussion: D 0.95 target date of Feb 13th - Feb 27th is
> achievable, with more participation of members (consensus).
>
> Brief sermon from Bill Cox on participation if we're going to make the
> timetable under discussion -- issues processing is critical, and there's
>
> not much discussion.
>
> In informal discussion, the group agreed that model and primer are
> needed for completion, and that a detailed review/walkthrough F2F was
> needed of the next stable draft.  Several members suggested that both
> the model and primer are necessary for the next review: it's hard to get
>
> people to review our document when they have to dedicate several days to
>
> the task.
>
> Peter suggested that D 0.99 could be completed within 4 weeks after D
> 0.95, and that D 1.0 could then be completed within an additional 1-2
> weeks.  Discussion on having two 4-week review periods or one.  No
> consensus reached. Four weeks from draft to draft does not allow a four
> week review period.  Further discussion needed.
>
> We discussed requirements for moving the committee draft to OASIS. Three
>
> implementations, complete and consistent document are required; no one
> knew the precise requirements. Someone noted that this group should
> avoid the same mistakes made in developing the JMS specification (moving
>
> too quickly to get a consistent set of semantics)
>
> Need more member involvement in this process.
>
> Primer Outline:
>
> Brief discussion; people seemed to think it was a good start.  Comments
> via email requested.
>
> Action Items
>
> All: Work on resolving issues so we can get to a complete reviewable
> draft.
>
>   Next meeting is Jan 30th.
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