[business-transaction] TC April 17 con call - Minutes

[William Z Pope <zpope@pobox.com>]

Thanks to Choreology for hosting the call!

Attendees:
  Peter Furniss
  Tony Fletcher
  Mark Little
  Pyounguk Cho
  Alex Ceponkus
  Sazi Temel
  Jim Webber
  Bill Pope
  Geoff Brown

Regrets
  Bill Cox
  Alastair Green
  Steve White

Actions:
- Bill and Peter to send out attendance notices
- Peter to re-open issue 108 to address the other part of the issue.
- Need statement of why issue 89 should be addressed in V1.0
- Bill Pope to find the status of the Primer
- Alex needs to update the schema to align with the draft 0.9.5 text
- Bill Pope to send to the business-transaction list a pointer to the 
  OASIS IP policy. 

Issue:
- IBM has claimed patent on ebXML CPPA.  

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Agenda:
- What's needed for committee draft?
  This item may simply be a forward reference to the issues listed
  below. 
  - Nothing added on the call.
- Schedule
  Committee draft out of Newcastle meeting?
  - Comments back from Systinet, inconsistencies between the schema and the
    document, schema is behind the document.
  - Sazi has some editorial comments

- Face to Face in Newcastle
  - Who is attending?

- What issues are open and how are they to be dealt with?
  - Issue 87: Conformance
    The change to resolve this issue was voted down.  What's needed to
    resolve? 
    * Several drafts of this text have gone out to the list.  Need to see if
      the latest text addresses all of the objections.  
      Ready for next email vote. 
  - Issue 89: J2EE Inter-operability - JMS short circuit.
    There is a proposed XML representation for BTP state.
    * Still needs to be discussion of why this should be included in Draft
      1.0.  While it is useful it has not had enough study.  Is there enough
      benefit to including it in 1.0 to overcome the possibility that we get
      it wrong and need to change it in a subsequent release of the spec.
      Not ready for email vote.
  - Issue 108: Participant and service identification.
    The change to resolve this issue has been voted and agreed.  Is
    there more that needs to be done?
    * Answer is YES, issue 108 will be re-opened to address this.  There is
      still discussion on the business-transaction list, primarily between
      Mark Little and Peter Furniss, that is converging.
    
  "Model issues"
  - Issue 24: The apparent complexity of the model is too great
    State diagrams for hazard and termination protocol needed?
  - Issue 25: Conformance (depends on issue 87)
  - Issue 66: Event diagram for termination protocol
  - Issue 73: ACID relaxation in overview
    There is no explicit comparison to traditional ACID transactions
    in the draft 0.9.5 text.
  Editorial comments
  a) Tree composition is top down only
  b) Compensatable versus cancellable as a BTP requirement


William Z Pope
zpope@pobox.com