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Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting
Doug, I do not see the need to vote on the existence of the BTP, especially considering your involvement in WS-CAF. It should be noted that the group reached v1.0 and has moved into building several prototypes in order to return to the group with factual case studies - where is the value in suggesting that the groups disbands ?? The agenda should be expanded to cover whatever the groups sees fit. I have no interest in attending a meeting to vote on destroying a group that has already produced something, considering the links between WS-CAF and BTP I think the agenda should also cover this subject. My opinion is that WS-CAF is an excellent piece of work. Therefore, I wish to raise inter operability with WS-CAF as an agenda item. Lets keep all our efforts constructive rather than destructive. I am prepared to host a constructive event at Oracle's HQ to progress further. Geoff. Director GRID Technologies Advanced Technology Solutions Oracle Corporation Doug Bunting wrote: > Bill, > > I believe it inappropriate to discuss addressing issues at the same > meeting we work through the future existence of the group. I would like > to propose again, in stronger terms perhaps, that what we should discuss > in this meeting, and vote on, is whether after such a long period of > inactivity and after providing all our chartered deliverables it makes > any sense for this TC to continue. > > If the result is "yes" (the TC should continue its existence), then I > would like to see a proposed schedule of future meetings, deliverables > and how they fit into our Charter. Future meetings could be used to > discuss the issue list, means for addressing them and perhaps a Charter > modification [1] if the issues to be dealt with require such. Until > then, I think the we must constrain ourselves to one and only one agenda > item at the proposed meeting. Otherwise, we may create the impression > that suddenly, after all this time, the TC does indeed have an agenda. > > thanx, > doug > > [1] Note that only clarifications are allowed to a Charter. If the > proposed deliverables are new, a new TC would need to do the work. > > On 16-Sep-03 11:01, William Z Pope wrote: > > > The items that I have for the agenda are > > 1. Doug's proposal > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00013.ht > > ml > > > > Several items that may be relevant to the discussion around Doug's proposal > > 2. BTP issues > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00008.ht > > ml > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00009.ht > > ml > > > > For people who are interested in attending the call, would you send me the > > dates and times that you are available and/or unavailble. We are looking > > for > > 1/2 to 1 1/2 hours between September 26th and October 10th. > > > > Regards, > > =bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Geoffrey Brown [mailto:Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:23 PM > > To: Doug Bunting > > Cc: zpope@pobox.com; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > > > > Folks, > > > > If we are to call a meeting can we establish an agenda first. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Geoff. > > > > Director > > GRID Technologies > > Advanced Technology Solutions > > Oracle Corporation > > > > Doug Bunting wrote: > > > > > >>Bill, > >> > >>On our call a bit ago, you asked for my time constraints: > >>* I prefer slots that fit into the standard Pacific time work day > >>* all day on the 23rd works for me > >>* Wednesday through Friday of that week, I will be participating in a > >>face to face standards meeting (W3C Web Services Architecture WG) > >>* if I have time it would be Friday afternoon > >>* the 29th through 1 October, I will be participating in an internal > >>offsite meeting. While I may be able to pull myself out for a short > >>teleconference, I would prefer to be settled in my office rather than on > >>a cell phone for this meeting. > >>* On the 2nd and 3rd, my mornings are a bit cloudy. I may have some > >>time available earlier in the day on Friday (the 3rd). > >> > >>thanx, > >> doug > >> > >>PS. I have seen your question but not yet decided how I feel about it. > >>Will let you know. > >> > >>On 12-Sep-03 03:12, William Z Pope wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Doug, > >>>Interested in hearing your motion. That date and time work for me > >>>though I would also prefer something earlier. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>=bill > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > >>>>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:36 PM > >>>>To: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > >>>>Subject: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Bill et al, > >>>> > >>>>I would like to make a motion for consideration by this TC. > >>>>As far as I > >>>>know, such a motion must be raised during a meeting of the group and > >>>>cannot be submitted over email. While I would prefer to set up a > >>>>teleconference for next week, I suspect our quorum numbers remain > >>>>unchanged since the previous meeting and will therefore > >>>>suggest Tuesday, > >>>>23rd September to give as many people a chance to attend. If > >>>>the group > >>>>agrees, I would be happy to host the call. > >>>> > >>>>To pick a time out of the air, how about 10:00 AM Pacific time? > >>>> > >>>>thanx, > >>>> doug > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > >>>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net > >>>>work for you!" > >>>> > >>>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > >>>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > >>>> > >>>>For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: > >>>>http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > >>>>the roster of the OASIS TC), go to > >>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transact > >>> > >>>ion/members/leave_workgroup.php. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > >>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for you!" > >> > >>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > >>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > >> > >>For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: > >>http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > >> > >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of > > > > the OASIS TC), go to > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/members/le > > ave_workgroup.php. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the > > OASIS TC), go to > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/members/le > > ave_workgroup.php. > > > > > > > > -- > SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > "An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for you!" > > WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > > For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: > http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork
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