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Subject: draft minutes 20th November 2013
Meeting Minutes 20th November 2013
Attendees
Oracle Martin Chapman Chair
Fujitsu Limited Jacques Durand Voting Member
Cloudsoft Corporation Limited Alex Heneveld Voting Member
Oracle Anish Karmarkar Voting Member
Oracle Ashok Malhotra Voting Member
NetApp Alex McDonald Member
Rackspace Hosting, Inc. Adrian Otto Secretary
Vnomic Derek Palma Voting Member
Oracle Gilbert Pilz Voting Member
Fujitsu Limited Tom Rutt Voting Member
Software AG, Inc. Prasad Yendluri Voting Member
Intro:
Jacques assumes scribe duties.
Roll: Voting Members: 10 of 12 (83%), meeting is quorate.
Agenda:
add discussion about next weeks call - day before US Thanksgiving
Agenda approved
Minutes:
13th November 2013: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201311/msg00119.html
inconsistency observed by Gil: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201311/msg00129.html
In the motions to close 148, the actual issue number should be 143, transcription error as 143 is in the list of issues preceding the motion.
MOTION: tom - approve minutes of 13th nov as modified, Gil 2nd. No obj.
Approved
Admin:
Discussion on meeting weds 27th Nov - day before US Thanksgiving
Gil, Ashok will nto attend.
Chair: still keep Wed 27 meeting on - we'll see if quorate
Timeline:
chair: 20 open issues, 1 P1, 14 P2, 5 P3
... 9 have very concrete proposals
Editors update:
Gil: WD30 latest editor draft
Test assertions: need aligned with latest re-factored spec draft. Scheduled for next week.
Issue discussions:
chair: scrum session issues first.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-144 no way to correlate a resource's "type" value with the array of type definitions contained in the TypeDefinitions resource
Gil presents proposal
MOTION: (tom) to resolve 144 with the proposal in JIRA (Anish 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-118 4.3.2.4 services - "application in"?
MOTION: (gil) to resolve 118 with the proposal in JIRA (last JIRA comment) (tom 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-117 4.3.3 Artifact Specification
Anish Karmarkar: r we saying 117 is resolved by 147?
not quite - because of this proposal 147 could close no action!
MOTION: (gil) to resolve 117 with proposal in JIRA for (tom 2nd).
No discuss.No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-116 4.3 Deployment Plan Schema - well-formed/conforms to
MOTION: (gil) to resolve 116 with the proposal in JIRA (tom 2nd).
No discuss .No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-113 4.3.2.1 campVersion - SHALL?
Adrian Otto (Rackspace)1: I move to resolve CAMP-113 with the proposal in Jira
MOTION: (adrian) move to resolve CAMP-113 with the proposal in Jira (Anish 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-109 4.3.1 General Attribute
MOTION: (anish) to resolve 109 with proposal in JIRA (gil 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-109 4.3.1 General Attributes
anish: RPM file needs a ref to the concept def, not a particular version
MOTION: (gil) to resolve 105 with the proposal in JIRA and direct editors to do the right thing (tom 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
Issues with proposals post scrum:
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-110 Values for "attributeType" are not clearly defined.
Gil presents his proposal
MOTION: (tom) to resolve issue 110 with proposal in JIRA (jacques 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-98 3 Application Management Lifecycle
tom: most pictures assume Plan is supported
Gil: just uploaded new prop in JIRA for #98
MOTION: (tom) to resolve 98 with (just uploaded) proposal in JIRA (gil 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-148 Section 3 is redundant
MOTION: (tom) to close w no-action #148 (due to #98) (gil 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-72 Error Response Message Resource looks like relic of a bygone age
Anish: suggest to get rid of 6.1.1 altogether
chair: HTTP is a normative ref , so compliance is implied.
chair: just replace with a blanket statement about HTTP codes specified in RFCxxxx
MOTION: (gil) to resolve 72 with the proposal in JIRA but remove proposed 6.1.1 (anish 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-73 Make the style of figures consistent
MOTION: (anish) to resolve 73 with proposal in JIRA (ashok 2nd).
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
Issues needing discussion:
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-128 C.1 Mandatory Statements (conflicting proposals)
MOTION: MOTION: (anish) to close w no-action 128 (ashok 2nd).
CAMP-99 resolves this
No discuss. No obj. Approved.
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-44 Clarify resource type issues and API
Anish: should be a P2 not P3
Gil Pilz (Oracle): Adrian has left, Alex is gone
alexMD: inheritance same issue for attr and op
... need clarify diff between template vs instance. Also multiple inheritance has no good solution
Gil: not ready for approval anyway - just direction
Gil: proposal still needs some improvements. Attribute constraints are in attr metadata.
Anish will do another precise proposal - need Alex to evaluate it, need help/review
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-26 Need to define a core set of Platform Component types
Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): this should now be standard "service types" not platform component types.
MartinC: defer this issue to a primer or another document - noting we have not agreed to any other deliverable apart from the spec and test assertions docs
Anish: could a primer / example doc show some common platform component types? (supporting doc issue, not spec)
anish: suggest to close this issue, let new initiative on this become a new issue.
Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): +1 to close rather than defer
MOTION: (anish) to close w no-action 26 (tom 2nd).
ashok: some members missing...
... we should hold as a courtesy
MOTION: (ashok) to table #26 (jacques 2nd)
... no obj to tabeling.
MOTION IS TABELLED
AOB
Straggler roll:
next meeting: Wed 27 Nov 13
Meeting adjourned.
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