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Subject: Raw chat log of 2014-02-05 call
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Dial-in: +1 866-682-4770 +1 408-774-4073 1800932479 (Ireland toll free) +353 1 247 5650 0800-694-8154 (UK toll free) +44 208 118-1001 +44 844 493-6817 800-819-5024 (CN toll free) +86 400 670-0514Other numbers: https://www.tcconline.com/listNumbersByCode.action?confCode=3005864
conf id: 3005864# Password: Soaphub for notes and queue: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oasis-camp ------------------------------------------------------- Webex: Meeting Number: 596 151 450 Meeting Password: 2267 https://oracleconferencing.webex.com/oracleconferencing/j.php?J=596151450&PW=NYmE1YjY0NTZh http://www.webex.comAdrian Otto (Rackspace): Agenda: Roll Call, Select Scribe, Editors Update, PR Discussion, Straggler Roll
anish: we should add resolving 146/162 before moving to PR discussion Alex Heneveld: @Adrian - your voice is very very faintanish: checklist for CSD/PR: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tca/download.php/47468/tc-submission-checklist-wd03.html
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Agenda: Agenda: Roll Call, Select Scribe, Editors Update, CAMP-146, CAMP-162, PR Discussion, Straggler Roll
anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00074.html
anish: martin's email for PR: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00085.html
Scribe: topic: minutes Jan 29. MOTION to approve (Anish/Gil). Scribe: ... no obj, approved. Scribe: topic: editors updateScribe: Gil: produced WD38 (resolutions to last meeting issues, + #162 resolution)
Scribe: ... then WD39 after this. (final PR-ready)Adrian Otto (Rackspace): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52094/camp-spec-v1.1-wd38.doc
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52111/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39.doc
Alex Heneveld: Folks I have to leave at 1830 GMTAdrian Otto (Rackspace): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip
Scribe: Gil: produced the zip package (CSD04)Gil Pilz (Oracle): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52132/camp-ta-v1.1-wd18.doc
Martin - just observing: did yu tae rolland record if quorate? Martin - just observing: (excuse iphone tyos) Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Martin - yes, we are 9/12 75% Martin - just observing: thnx. back to cocktails Scribe: jacques: present TA specification latest Scribe: anish: posted an update of TAs, mostly editorial Scribe: topic: CAMP-146 Scribe: ... about CAMP versionsScribe: Alex: should not hold up PR for this. Happy to go either way (could close up)
Scribe: Adrian: (acting as temp chair) Scribe: Adrian: we should leave it open. Scribe: Tom: would that be a material change --> we leave it to another PR?anish: close it now. it can always be reopened later, if there is will in the TC to address it
Scribe: Alex: close then reopen in future. Scribe: ... MOTION: close #146 w no action (Alex/Anish) Scribe: ... approved. Scribe: topic: CAMP-162 Scribe: Gil: MOTION to open CAMP-162 (Gil/Anish) Scribe: ... no obj, approved UNAN.Scribe: Gil: MOTION to close CAMP-162 as already resolved in WD38 (Gil/Anish)
Scribe: ... no obj, approved UNAN. Scribe: topic: PRAdrian Otto (Rackspace): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip
Scribe: Gil: created package of potential PR. Maybe ref to TA need update.Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): Test assertions for the normative statements in this specification are located at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/camp/camp-ta/v1.1/camp-ta-v1.1.pdf
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 = WD38 without redlinesAdrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 has a reference to the TA document. TA doc is appropriate for CD but maybe not PR.
Scribe: Anish: 3 optionsanish: option (1): change the camp spec to remove the link to TA doc, don't do CSD/PR for TA
anish: (2): don't change the CAMP spec, do the CSD/PR for TA simultaneously with main spec
anish: (3) don't change the CAMP spec, do a CSD but not PR for TA todayScribe: jacques: keep the TA link in CAMP related works, and approve a CSD of TA
Martin - just observing: its not normative so we can change the ref to the latest ta when we get to cs wothout triggering another pr - stop overthinking this
Scribe: Anish: prefers option 3 Scribe: Anish: today: CSD + PR for core CAMP, just CSD for TA. Scribe: Tom: +1 to Anish proposalAdrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move that the TC approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative.
Scribe: Adrian: let us proceed for CAMP specScribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative.
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): The figures in the HTML version of the spec in the CSD04package.zip package are difficult to read.
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Tom indicates this is a final publication concern, that should not block PR.
Gil Pilz (Oracle): file://localhost/Users/gpilz/Documents/CAMP/working%20drafts/CSD04package/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39_files/image001.gif
Scribe: .. no obj. Approved UNANAdrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move that the TC approve submitting Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 CSD04 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip as PR02 for 15 days public review.
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): TC Admin's attention is directed to ensure that the "Additional artifacts" link on the cover page contains the link to the CSD04/PR02 version of the camp-type-definitions.zip. TC admin is also requested that a latest link to the CAMP-TA document be added to the "Related works" section on the cover page, should the camp-ta work product be motioned to be published as a csd/pr
Scribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to proceed as just above (Adrian chat note). no obj. approved UNAN
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Adrian Action Item: assuming 6 passes, request TC Admin to upload to docs using this form: https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/committee-specification-draft-creation-upload-request
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Adrian Action: request TC admin for a subsequent Public review using this form https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/15-day-committee-specification-draft-public-review-request (note TC Admin prefers two tickets to be logged. One for the CSD and one for the PR)
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Topic: CAMP-TA CD01/PR1 planningTom Rutt (Fujitsu): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201402/msg00007.html
Gil Pilz (Oracle): CSDXXpackage.zip anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52135 anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move to approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) Test Assertions Version 1.1 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136 as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative.
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): waitAdrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move to approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) Test Assertions Version 1.1 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136 as Committee Specification Draft 01 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative.
Scribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to do as above. no obj. approved UNAN. anish: woo-hoo! Martin - just observing1: well done team! Gil Pilz (Oracle): somebody grab the chat log Adrian Otto (Rackspace): I will Scribe: I did Adrian Otto (Rackspace): we also want the scribe to record Adjournment Scribe: Meeting adjourned at 11:30pmPT Adrian Otto (Rackspace): tx!!Martin - just observing1: please post log to the list as draft minutes i will pretty print next week!
Adrian Otto (Rackspace): am Adrian Otto (Rackspace): but close enough! Scribe: Meeting adjourned at 11:30amPT, sorryAdrian Otto (Rackspace): Martin - do you want me to produce the draft agenda, or is that something you want to handle? I need the reference to it to make the TC Admin requests.
anish: nice job everyone!
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