Re**4 Fwd**4: CGM Profiles

["Bruce L. Garner" <brucegar@pacbell.net>]

By all means, confirm - Bruce

Lofton Henderson wrote:
> 
> CGM Open Members,
> 
> Anne Mumford opined that the ISPs ought to be preserved, with a "confirm"
> vote in SC24.  I suggested to Steve that the CGMO members probably don't
> feel strongly about the ISPs, and it would be okay with us to defer to
> Anne's opinion (she was the source of this work, and a Profiles Workshop
> which proceeded it).
> 
> I did this because we were short of time, to get a resolution before the
> SC24 plenary meeting.  If I mis-spoke, i.e., if anyone objects to
> "confirm", please let me know.
> 
> -Lofton.
> 
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> >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:17:34 -0600
> >To: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
> >From: Steve Carson <carson@gscassociates.com>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: CGM Profiles
> >Cc: Steve Carson <carson@siggraph.org>,
> >  Jean Stride <100434.3031@compuserve.com>,puk@igraphics.com
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> >
> >At 02:19 PM 6/13/2001 -0600, Lofton Henderson wrote:
> > >Hello all --
> > >
> > >Belatedly, I have gotten the response from Anne Mumford, who is the source
> > >of this work on the ISPs.  She believes that the right answer is "Confirm".
> > >
> > >No one else opposes that.  It's just that the CGMO membership is more
> > >commercially oriented, and didn't have strong feelings (to the extent that
> > >they were even aware of the work).
> > >
> > >This may be too late now, if SC24 action has already been taken.
> > >
> >
> >The plenary is tomorow. I'm sure we can change the resolution on the fly
> >there.
> >
> > >Regards,
> > >Lofton.
> > >
> > >
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> > >>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:09:05 +0100
> > >>To: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
> > >>From: Anne Mumford <A.M.Mumford@lboro.ac.uk>
> > >>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: CGM Profiles -- p.s.
> > >>X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer2.lut.ac.uk, Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:09:14 +0100
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> > >>
> > >>PS re the email from Bruce. While I would not disagree that they might be
> > >>better as technical reports, changing their status is almost certainly too
> > >>tricky and not worth it.
> > >>
> > >>I still go with them being confirmed as worthy of keeping.
> > >>
> > >>Anne
> > >>
> > >>At 11:02 AM 6/11/01 -0600, you wrote:
> > >> >Anne,
> > >> >
> > >> >Here is my solicitation to CGMO and one reply...
> > >> >
> > >> >>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:14:24 -0700
> > >> >>From: "Bruce L. Garner" <brucegar@pacbell.net>
> > >> >>Subject: Re: Fwd: CGM Profiles -- Input needed
> > >> >>To: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
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> > >> >>
> > >> >>Lofton,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>These should be retained as technical reports. Standards should be
> > >> >>maintained only when used in the real world.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Bruce
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Lofton Henderson wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > CGM Open Members --
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have assumed the role of liaison to ISO SC24, the ISO home
> > >> committee of
> > >> >> > the CGM standard.  This job was formerly held by John Gebhardt.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I'd like to get opinions about the attached -- what do we feel about
> > >>these
> > >> >> > ISO profiles?  For background, they were developed following a
> > >>workshop in
> > >> >> > the UK, which identified a small number of potentially useful
> > standard
> > >> >> > profiles of CGM.  One aligned roughly with the ATA/CALS tradition,
> > >>another
> > >> >> > aligned roughly with PIP.  In some sense, they were intended to be a
> > >>family
> > >> >> > of alternate model profiles, which had functional richness
> > targeted at
> > >> >> > certain typical application sectors (the real Model Profile is
> > >> "maximally
> > >> >> > rich for any reasonable profile").
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > They are, to my knowledge, not actually called out as a
> > requirement by
> > >>any
> > >> >> > application community.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > One possibility, which is not mentioned and which I have not
> > >> investigated
> > >> >> > yet, would be to change their status to Technical Reports.  Then they
> > >>would
> > >> >> > not be standards per se (as they are now -- ISP, International
> > >>Standardized
> > >> >> > Profile), but would continue to exist in ISO for reference purposes.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thoughts?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Regards,
> > >> >> > Lofton.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:53:05 -0400
> > >> >> > >From: jean stride <100434.3031@compuserve.com>
> > >> >> > >Subject: CGM Profiles
> > >> >> > >Sender: jean stride <100434.3031@compuserve.com>
> > >> >> > >To: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
> > >> >> > >X-RCPT-TO: <lofton@rockynet.com>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >Hello,
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >Do you remember being involved with the work led by
> > >> >> > >Anne Mumford in the developing of CGM Profiles
> > >> >> > >(ISO/IEC ISP 12071 Parts 1 - 4) developed in JTC 1-SGFS
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >They are up for 5yr review and we need to make some recommendations
> > >> >> > >on whether to confirm, withdraw or revise - can you help ??
> > >> >> > >Jean
> > >> >> >
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> > >
> > >
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