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Subject: Re: [chairs] public comment web form


Yes, there have been TCs who have conducted technical discussions on the 
comment lists. Under the guise of getting technical input from a broad 
number of sources, they have actually reduced the incentive for people 
to join the TC.

-Karl


Rich Thompson wrote:
> 
> So if I understand the design:
>  - There will no longer be a -comment email list one can subscribe to
>  - There will be a web form for submitting comments
>  - These comments will be emailed to the chair and appended to a 
> publically accessible archive
> 
> This maintains accountability, but is a drop on the openness front. 
> Still accountable because anyone can go search the -comment archive, but 
> less open as many fewer will do that than who subscribe to the -comment 
> lists today.
> 
> I guess I would back up and question why it is a problem for the public 
> email list to be a discussion forum. Have there been instances where 
> this was distractive to the work of the TC or perhaps used 
> inappropriately by some members of the public? Other reasons driving the 
> change?
> 
> Rich Thompson
> OASIS WSRP TC Chair
> 
> 
> "Karl F. Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org>
> 
> 09/04/2003 02:01 PM
> Please respond to karl.best
> 
>        
>         To:        Rich Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
>         cc:        chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>         Subject:        Re: [chairs] public comment web form
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The submitted comment will be forwarded to the chair as well as put in
> the -comment archive. So there will still be the same accountability for
> the comments received.
> 
> -Karl
> 
> 
> Rich Thompson wrote:
>  >
>  > One could always argue that the chair can forward the comment with a
>  > reply to the TC mail list rather than a private response. I was more
>  > concerned that this takes what was an open communication (posting to an
>  > email list) and turns it into a private communication (email to the
>  > chair). This seems to go against the open nature of OASIS.
>  >
>  > Rich Thompson
>  > OASIS WSRP TC Chair
>  >
>  >
>  > "Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@onename.com>
>  >
>  > 09/04/2003 01:27 PM
>  >
>  >        
>  >         To:        <lauren@textuality.com>, <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
>  >         cc:        "Gabe Wachob (E-mail)" <gwachob@visa.com>
>  >         Subject:        RE: [chairs] public comment web form
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Karl,
>  >
>  > I agree with Lauren. At least a limited form of public discussion seems
>  > like a valuable portion of what OASIS provides. What was the board's
>  > thinking on this?
>  >
>  > =Drummond
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Lauren Wood [mailto:lauren@textuality.com]
>  > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 AM
>  > To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>  > Subject: [chairs] public comment web form
>  >
>  > Karl wrote:
>  >
>  > * The TC's public comment list is replaced with a "means to collect
>  > public comments", which will be a web form. (This is to prevent the
>  > comment list from being used as a discussion list.) Comments
>  > collected by the web form will go to the chairs. I'm having the web
>  > forms built  now and will announce to the comment lists when this
>  > change will take place.  
>  >
>  >
>  > Karl,
>  >
>  > how do we then ask clarifying questions, or make quick replies (along
>  > the lines of "see section 2.1. in the spec - isn't that clear
>  > enough?"
>  >
>  > I can understand not wanting full discussions, but we often do need
>  > clarifying discussions to know what the comment provider really
>  > meant. And I'd rather not have that take place in private email.
>  >
>  > Lauren
>  >
>  > ---
>  > Lauren Wood, Textuality
>  > Chair, ER TC
>  >
>  >
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> -- 
> =================================================================
> Karl F. Best
> Vice President, OASIS
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Vice President, OASIS
office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
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