David,
Would you
be kind enough to humor me, and repost your original message on this topic to
the member-discuss list? I'll promote it in OASIS News this week and see if
we can draw some interest. The mere
mention of your name should be good for a few hundred new subscribers.
Carol
Scott,
That seems to be a pretty elite group right now -
all of 16 of us
out of 4,000 odd!!!
Seems like OASIS has a bit of a hard time getting
anyone other
than the BOD and staff members to sign up there? ;
-)
Perhaps we need more of a forum style list - and
just
automatically include everyone into it - and then
post a
daily topic summary to their email if there are any
postings?
Or maybe discount coupons good toward $25 off
your
membership dues if you join the discuss list?!? ;
-)
Cheers, DW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:44
PM
Subject: RE: [chairs] XML - What, Why,
How?
David, Susan, et
al,
This is a really good
conversation. I’d love to see it open up to include more than just our
esteemed Chairs.
Check out, and
consider moving this discussion to, the Member-discuss group at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oasis-member-discuss/
Of course, you and your friends should consider joining that group
to discuss this and other interesting topics.
A side benefit of
bringing this discussion to the member-discuss, is it gets it off the Chairs
mail list. This is advantageous as off-topic discussion annoys those
Chairs who expect the Chairs list to be used for its intended (and low
traffic) purpose.
Enjoy!
Scott…
-----Original
Message----- From: David
Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:25
PM To: Smoter Susan;
ejones@warningsystems.com; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [chairs] XML - What, Why,
How?
Any chance you could donate those
presentation materials to the OASIS e-Gov TC??
I agree that there has to be a
connection between their business domain and the
Hopefully once they "get it" -
they can peruse a selection of executive overviews
from the OASIS TC's that might
connect between their needs and the capabilities
that our groups have
created. It can be a bit overwhelming - so making it
simpler
for people to find what they want
in the store front and the back shelves - it
important - maybe we can get
WalMart to design something for us?!? ; -)
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: Re:
[chairs] XML - What, Why, How?
Yes,
same problem seen and the need for educational tools. Thanks for bringing
this up. I've had our contractor Mitre hold a XML for managers class
which was very well received. And much needed. Follow-up is also required
because if you don't work with this it's quickly forgotten - we don't want
the benefits forgotten. That's where our efforts should be focused.
-------------------------- Susan Smoter, Director Internet
Development Services, IRS
-----Original Message----- From: Elysa Jones
<ejones@warningsystems.com> To: David Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>;
Chairs OASIS <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Thu Jun 02 09:19:04
2005 Subject:
Re: [chairs] XML - What, Why, How?
David -
Great idea! I have run into similar lapses in understanding. Maybe this is
something Robin Cover can do on the site. I agree it should be at the top level and
additionally available in a way can use it in our respective TCs. Good start on
the bullets too! Thanks, Elysa
At
08:00 AM 6/2/2005, David Webber \(XML\) wrote: >I presented yesterday to my local
State voting group >technical committee. 20+ people, all had
heard of >XML and knew that it was angle-brackets like
HTML, >but
had little idea beyond that what the mission and >purpose of XML is.
> >I'd like to suggest that this is
something OASIS as >a whole needs to do more about! I think we
have >gotten
complacent and just assume everyone knows. > >Reality check - if my group is a
representative sample, >we still have a huge amount of work to do in
education >at a base level inside our own industry - let
alone outside! > >I'd suggest OASIS looks at creating a couple of
one or >two
page documents for the OASIS front page and >that we have two prominent buttons
with "Who are we?" >"What does XML do?" - to help get the message
across >at
least at our own front door! > >The "Who are we?" needs to emphasize the role
and >membership and charter - too many people have
a >bad to
iffy impression of what OASIS is and how it >fits into the big picture of
standards work internationally >and who its members are. A simple diagram or
two >would
help here. > >Then here's a stab at some bullet points for the
later >summary on XML (below). > >I'd hate to have to form a
committee to do this - hopefully >someone has something that can be purposed here
to >rapidly
close this gap for us? > >Cheers, DW >========================================
> >OASIS and XML - the What, Why and
How? > >What: > >o document content styling, presentation,
markup, storage >o information transaction exchange formats and
validation >o transfer communication protocol
mechanisms >o process scripting and control
>o knowledge
representation and semantics >o modelling, graphics and maps
representation > >Why: > >o create interoperability, consistency and
certification >o reduce costs by providing proven and tried
solutions >o
improve access, collaboration and sharing >o foster open marketplaces within
industry sectors > >How: > >o open public specifications, tools and
techniques >o domain experts collaborate to create
solutions >o
open international membership, low barriers for participation
>o solutions providers
implement products and services >o outreach, demonstrations, feedback,
engagement.
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