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Subject: Re: [chairs] Voting 2/3
On Jul 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, David Webber ((XML)) wrote: > The reality is that nothing is going to be done about this. As a member of the Process SubCommittee, which for the last 2 months has been discussing and trying to come up with a better algorithm which balances the needs and complicated trade-offs across the organization, chairs, simplicity, IPR accountability, enforceability, etc., I must be living in a different reality. I'm under the impression that we are actually pretty close to proposing a change in the attendance rules, that I hope will strike a reasonable balance. cheers, jeff > > The only solution is to have non-meetings thru the summer, > till September - where the meetings that do occur are > informal conference calls - not official calls. > > This has the side benefits of no minutes needed, and > no roll-call. > > It has the negative impact that items discussed are > non-things and so probably best not to discuss > anything being included in spec's - just busy work > around promoting the work of the TC and such. > > Of course if you need to do real spec' work - just make > sure your editors and others are not planning any > vacations... or use Kavi voting for everything (make > sure the TC has approved that as well of course). > > DW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com> > To: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>; > <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>; > "James Bryce Clark" <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:46 PM > Subject: RE: [chairs] Voting 2/3 > > > Couldn't agree more. > > I made my opinion known a couple of weeks ago and asked Jamie for an > update. I got no response: > >> Jamie - can you update us on whether or not the meeting attendance >> rule is going to get changed and when that might happen? > > This is creating lots of extra work for chairs/secretaries of the TC's > and needs to get changes ASAP, IMO. > > Jamie - please respond. > > Rob Philpott > Senior Consulting Engineer > RSA Security Inc. > Tel: 781-515-7115 > Mobile: 617-510-0893 > Fax: 781-515-7020 > Email: rphilpott@rsasecurity.com > I-name: =Rob.Philpott > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:19 PM >> To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark >> Subject: [chairs] Voting 2/3 >> >> All/Jamie: >> >> My TC's number of voting members has now dropped to below 30 out of > 110 >> members and observers. IMO - a lot of this is due to the 2/3 rule and >> the fact it is summer. Many in my TC have expressed that the rule is >> not fair and would prefer to move to a different metric, perhaps only >> loosing voting privileges if you miss 2 in a row. Attendance at every >> other meeting seems to be more than adequate to retain knowledge of > the >> TC work given the traffic on the lists and other informal meetings. > We >> have a few members who have been extremely active that are now on >> probation. >> >> I want to ask again if OASIS is going to open this up for further >> discussion? >> >> Is there any chair opposed to further discussion on this matter? >> >> Duane Nickull >> Senior Standards Strategist >> Adobe Systems, Inc. > > -- Jeff Mischkinsky jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com Director, Web Services Standards +1(650)506-1975 Consulting Member Technical Staff 500 Oracle Parkway, M/S 4OP9 Oracle Redwood Shores, CA 94065
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