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Subject: FW: [ciq-comment] Using xCRL to model departmental contacts


 

From: Fraser Crichton [mailto:fraser.crichton@solnetsolutions.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Ram Kumar
Subject: Re: [ciq-comment] Using xCRL to model departmental contacts

 

Brilliant - thanks so much for getting back so quick.
 
I 've a meeting next Tuesday to finalise our Contacts model that will go a lot more smoothly now ;-) .

Cheers,

Fraser


Ram Kumar wrote:

Hi Fraser,

 

Your representation of the data in xCRL is right. You do not need a contact name to have relationships

in xCRL. As you have in your example, the contact person is Operations Officer working for a department

in an organization. By this way, as you stated, any staff turnover for this position of Operations Officer is

managed without having to change the name of the person everytime when the person moves. The department

is one of the many sub-entities of the organization.

 

Regards,

 

Ram Kumar

Chair, OASIS CIQ TC

 

From: Fraser Crichton [mailto:fraser.crichton@solnetsolutions.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:32
To: ciq-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ciq-comment] Using xCRL to model departmental contacts

Hi,

I'm trying to use xCRL to model organisation contacts.

So for instance, Dudley Brown works in the Marketing Services department in an organisation called the "Sports Fitness and Recreation Industry Training Organisation - Sports Advisory Group" and is the contact within that organisation for all queries to do with Press Releases. If I've got this right (?!*) I can use a relationship record to model Dudley as the orgnisations contact e.g.

<!--
Dudley Brown
National Manager - Marketing Services
Sports Fitness and Recreation Industry Training Organisation - Sports Advisory Group
Level 7, Xacta Towers, 94 Dixon Street
PO Box     PO Box 8638
PO Box location    Riccarton
Christchurch
Telephone 03 348-1506
Fax    03 348-1906
Email    hortito@xtra.co.nz
Web    http://www.etito.co.nz
-->
  <RelationshipRecord>
    <Customer PartyType="Organisation">
      <i:CustomerID>22</i:CustomerID>
      <n:NameDetails>
        <n:OrganisationNameDetails>
          <n:OrganisationName>Sports Fitness and Recreation Industry Training Organisation - Sports Advisory Group</n:OrganisationName>
        </n:OrganisationNameDetails>
      </n:NameDetails>
      <a:AddressDetails>
        <a:Country>
          <a:CountryName>New Zealand</a:CountryName>
          <a:AddressLines>
            <a:AddressLine>Level 7, Xacta Towers, 94 Dixon Street</a:AddressLine>
            <a:AddressLine>PO Box 8638</a:AddressLine>
           <a:AddressLine>Riccarton</a:AddressLine>
            <a:AddressLine>Christchurch</a:AddressLine>
          </a:AddressLines>
          </a:Country>
      </a:AddressDetails>
      <i:OrganisationInfo>
        <i:URLs>
          <i:URL Title="http://www.etito.co.nz">http://www.etito.co.nz</i:URL>
        </i:URLs>
      </i:OrganisationInfo>
    </Customer>
    <InRelationshipWith RelationshipType="Organisation-Person">
      <Customer PartyType="Person">
        <i:CustomerID>23</i:CustomerID>
        <n:NameDetails>
          <n:PersonName>
            <n:FirstName>Dudley</n:FirstName>
            <n:LastName>Brown</n:LastName>
          </n:PersonName>
        </n:NameDetails>
        <i:PersonInfo>
          <i:ContactNumbers>
            <i:ContactNumber Type="Fax" NumberType="Business Number" ContactNature="Business">
              <i:CountryCode>64</i:CountryCode>
              <i:AreaCode>03</i:AreaCode>
              <i:Number>3481906</i:Number>
            </i:ContactNumber>
          </i:ContactNumbers>
          <i:Occupations>
            <i:Occupation>
              <i:Position>
                <i:PositionTitle>National Manager</i:PositionTitle>
              </i:Position>
              <a:Department>
                <a:DepartmentName>Marketing Services</a:DepartmentName>
              </a:Department>
            </i:Occupation>
          </i:Occupations>
          <i:EmailAddresses>
            <i:EmailAddress Type="Business">hortito@xtra.co.nz</i:EmailAddress>
          </i:EmailAddresses>
        </i:PersonInfo>
      </Customer>
    </InRelationshipWith>
  </RelationshipRecord>


Fine.

Now what happens if it's a department within the organisation that is responsible for handling queries (say an organisation has a high staff turn-over and just has generic contacts based on departments) and that department has phone, postal and email contacts. Do I model that as a nameless entity with an occupation as below? Or is there a way in xCIL alone?

<!--
Contact    Operations Officer
Approvals, Accreditation and Audit
NZQA
PO Box 160
WELLINGTON
Telephone:    04 802 3000
Fax:    04 382 6895
    Email:    aaa@nzqa.govt.nz
-->
  <RelationshipRecord>
    <Customer PartyType="Organisation">
      <i:CustomerID>24</i:CustomerID>
      <n:NameDetails>
        <n:OrganisationNameDetails>
          <n:OrganisationName>New Zealand Qualifications Authority</n:OrganisationName>
        </n:OrganisationNameDetails>
        <n:OrganisationKnownAs Type="Abbreviation">
          <n:Namedetails>
            <n:OrganisationNameDetails>
              <n:OrganisationName>NZQA</n:OrganisationName>
            </n:OrganisationNameDetails>
          </n:Namedetails>
        </n:OrganisationKnownAs>
      </n:NameDetails>
      <a:AddressDetails>
        <a:Country>
          <a:CountryName>New Zealand</a:CountryName>
          <a:AddressLines>
            <a:AddressLine>PO Box 160</a:AddressLine>
            <a:AddressLine>Wellington</a:AddressLine>
          </a:AddressLines>
        </a:Country>
      </a:AddressDetails>
      <i:OrganisationInfo>
        <i:URLs>
          <i:URL Title="http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/acrp/">http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/acrp/</i:URL>
        </i:URLs>
      </i:OrganisationInfo>
    </Customer>
    <InRelationshipWith RelationshipType="Organisation-Person">
      <Customer PartyType="Person">
        <i:CustomerID>25</i:CustomerID>
        <i:PersonInfo>
          <i:ContactNumbers>
            <i:ContactNumber Type="Fax" NumberType="Business Number" ContactNature="Business">
              <i:CountryCode>64</i:CountryCode>
              <i:AreaCode>4</i:AreaCode>
              <i:Number>3826895</i:Number>
            </i:ContactNumber>
          </i:ContactNumbers>
          <i:Occupations>
            <i:Occupation>
              <i:Position>
                <i:PositionTitle>Operations Officer</i:PositionTitle>
                <i:Role>Administration Officer</i:Role>
              </i:Position>
              <a:Department>
                <a:DepartmentName>Approvals, Accreditation and Audit</a:DepartmentName>
              </a:Department>
            </i:Occupation>
          </i:Occupations>
          <i:EmailAddresses>
            <i:EmailAddress Type="Business">aaa@nzqa.govt.nz</i:EmailAddress>
          </i:EmailAddresses>
        </i:PersonInfo>
      </Customer>
    </InRelationshipWith>
  </RelationshipRecord>

Or do I extend the organisation name?

I hope it makes sense to ask this question and if this is not the right place to ask could you suggest somewhere that I find some answers?

Cheers,

Fraser


--
Fraser Crichton
Web Developer
SolNet Solutions Limited
L12, SolNet House, 70 The Terrace
PO Box 397, Wellington, Aotearoa / New Zealand
www.solnetsolutions.co.nz
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Mob: 027-278-3392
Fax: 04-462-5011
email: fraser.crichton@solnetsolutions.co.nz


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Fraser Crichton
Web Developer
SolNet Solutions Limited
L12, SolNet House, 70 The Terrace
PO Box 397, Wellington, Aotearoa / New Zealand
www.solnetsolutions.co.nz
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Mob: 027-278-3392
Fax: 04-462-5011
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