Re: [ciq] FW: XML 2004 Interop. demo

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Colin,

 

I'm a pragmatist on this.  Noone can force any TC to do anything.

 

My spin is therefore to try and build pieces that just happen to be

integrated with something else.  So for Hermes ebMS, jCAM is a plug-in.

 

All I can suggest is that you have pluggable CIQ parts for popular formats.

 

I know I'm on the hook to do this with jCAM - I will get to that in December - right now

I have a huge backlog - dealing with the Interop demo...

 

DW

----- Original Message -----

From: Colin.Wallis@ssc.govt.nz

To: RKumar@msi.com.au ; ciq@lists.oasis-open.org

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ciq] FW: XML 2004 Interop. demo

This is just unbelievable!

 

I don't know the Best Practice for Technical Committees but surely to goodness there is a clause somewhere that states you must identify the key drivers of your proposed standard and socialise them with the rest of the OASIS community.

 

I think this issue is one to put in front of OASIS management and get some community wide discussion going.

 

Because CIQ is so generic to data exchange we are going to have this situation more and more. 

 

I think it is best to get it in the open, now..or at least soonish.

 

Cheers

 

Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 4:17 p.m.
To: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ciq] FW: XML 2004 Interop. demo

CIQ TC,

 

FYI.

 

This is the problem we have at OASIS. Forget convergence and re-usability of

standards outside of OASIS when there is no visibility among OASIS TCs in

the first place! At OASIS we talk about convergence and re-usability of standards/

specifications. But this rarely happens!

 

Ram

 

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From: Newcomer, Eric [mailto:Eric.Newcomer@iona.com]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:48 AM
To: Ram Kumar; martin.chapman@oracle.com
Cc: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: XML 2004 Interop. demo

Hi Ram,

 

I'm afraid the answer is that we did not consider it and I'm afraid I also must say that I am unfamiliar with the CIQ specs.

 

Do you think they are a good match for the WS-Context specification? 

 

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:47 PM
To: martin.chapman@oracle.com; Newcomer, Eric
Cc: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: XML 2004 Interop. demo

Hi Martin and Eric,

 

I am the OASIS Chair for Customer Information Standards TC (OASIS CIQ TC).

 

I understanding that you are presenting the following demo at XML 2004:

 

Nov.17, 1:15PM -- OASIS WS-Composite Application Framework - Arjuna, IONA and
Oracle will simulate three Web-based storefronts that use WS-CAF to share
customer information.

I am keen to know whether you considered representing the customer information

content that you are going to share in the demo using the OASIS CIQ specs. for

customer information. By this way, the whole demo will be standards based and in

particular, representation of the content using an industry spec. is very key for any

web services application.

 

Looking forward to your views.

 

Regards,

 

Ram Kumar