RE: [cmis] From Plugfest to PlugParty?

Yes, indeed, plugfest does not require quoram. Quoram is only needed if TC decision is to be made.

Plugfest participation has always been voluntary. Anytime a group of vendors make an effort to validate the spec and their implementations, it is a good thing.

However, I would ask whoever hosting this regional event to:

- Consider accommodating remote participation if it is feasible (making CMIS services publicly accessible, and setting up a communication channel for testers, for 2-3 hours late in the afternoon CET)

- Summarize the findings (e.g. bug in the spec or clarification needed)

Those who wanted to participate remotely should let the host know in advance, and also notify the host when he finished his test.

BTW, when I suggested remote interop testing in the meeting, I was thinking a scenario of testing against one CMIS provider at a time. Whenever a CMIS provider is ready for testing, he can pick a date/time, put his CMIS services on the Web, and set up conf call/WebEx for tester communication. CMIS consumers can sign up for the test, so that the provider knows how many are participating and when the tests are done.

Once we have gone through such “unit tests”, we can consider a public plugfest when we announce 1.0.

david

From: Ryan McVeigh [mailto:ryan.mcveigh@oracle.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:27 PM
To: "Jens Hübel"; cmis@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [cmis] From Plugfest to PlugParty?

I like the idea. I’d certainly be willing to seek travel approval for something like this in one or both of Europe and the US.

-Ryan

From: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:18 PM
To: cmis@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [cmis] From Plugfest to PlugParty?

Hi TC,

after our call yesterday we had a couple of discussions today about the impact of not having a face-to-face meeting this spring. I fully understand the situation in which we are, but I also see the high risk not getting the spec ready in the proposed time frame. We also will miss a lot of interoperability experience from a PlugFest.

The idea of hosting our servers and apps in a public environment is an excellent way to go forward. However at least I saw the real value of the last PlugFest we had in the ability to talk to developers, to look at a call and its parameters and to set a breakpoint in the server to check what's wrong. All this is not possible in a remote environment. Some comments yesterday in the call went into the same direction. The PlugFest does not require a quorum, it's more an informal way for getting feedback and improving the spec. So in my opinion we should think about other options as well.

I would like to come up with an additional suggestion to the decisions we already have made. We have a couple of implementations/prototypes in Europe as well as in America. We could reduce travel costs by making the interop tests more a local event. It is definitely not to exclude someone from anything. Everybody would be welcome to participate. I think it would be just better to have such smaller events than nothing. My hope would be that more people easier could get sponsoring for a local trip. Because of the limited scope we might reduce the duration to perhaps 2 days (to be discussed). Last not least CMIS probably would get much more public awareness for such an event than for the remote tests.

"Fest" is the German word for a more official kind of celebration (like a marriage). We use "Party" for the more informal event on a Saturday evening. So why not make a "PlugParty" if we can't get the full PlugFest?

For the Europeans my first proposal would be to keep the proposed schedule and location (David Nuescheler from Day would be willing to host such an event as well… Thanks David!). Perhaps someone would be willing to setup something similar somewhere in the U.S.

Does this make any sense? Comments?

And if there are companies who would be willing to attend a such a downscaled event in Europe please reply to this list.

Thanks Jens

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