Minutes from the August 16 2001 Teleconference

[Lynne Rosenthal <lynne.rosenthal@nist.gov>]

Minutes of the Conformance TC Teleconference
Submitted by Lynne
Rosenthal
August 16, 2001

Participants:
Lynne Rosenthal
(lynne.rosenthal@nist.gov)
Mark Skall
(skall@nist.gov)
Lofton Henderson
(lofton@rockynet.com
David Smiley
(dsmiley@mercator.com)
Rik Drummond
(Drummond@drummondgroup.com)
Al Boseman (ATPCO)
Dave Marston
(David_Marston@lotus.com)
representing XSLT/XPath TC
Karl Best
(karl.best@oasis-open.org)

Future Meetings:

·       

Teleconf: 
Sept 13, 2001 at 2:00 (eastern)

·       

F2F 
sometime week of 9 Dec. 2001, Orlando

1.

      

House
Keeping
- Welcome to all who participated on the teleconference. 
- A quorum of voting members was present.  Rik Drummond and Al
Boseman stated their intent to be voting members. 
- Approval of previous minutes (July 19 teleconf)
- Review and approval of Agenda

2.

      

Discussion
of Conformance Requirements Document
Mark Skall led the discussion, starting with an overview of the document.
Comments on the document were discussed as follows: 

What is the status of the document within OASIS?  Can TC’s be
required to conform to this document?  Should ‘shall’ be used to
designate requirements?  
Within OASIS, TCs can be encouraged to use this document, but cannot be
required to conform to it.  If we use ‘shall’ within the document,
then other TCs can claim conformance to this document. Thus, if you use
it, you can conform.  
 Document as a whole is a ‘should’, but once you use it, it is a
‘shall’

Line 135  is ‘need not’ really the converse of ‘may’.  
ACTION ITEM: Lynne will check the ISO Directive 3 for the proper
definition

Section 6  What is the distinction between profiles, levels and
alternate approaches?
Levels make it easier for implementers to provide functionality  in
increments.  Profiles address a community and the needs of that
community.  Profiles may also specify options and specific values
for use.  Several people wish to think more about the distinction
between profiles and levels.
ACTION ITEM: Lynne will add more information on profiles

Add section on internationalization, language sets, etc. 
Any comments on Registration? None
Any comments on having a section or conformance requirements to
specifically address ebXML?  Generic document should be fine, no
need for ebXML specific document. 

ACTION ITEM: based on the discussion, Lynne will edit the document and
have it posted to the TC web page. 
Any comment, additions, etc should be sent to the mail exploder (or
Lynne).  Comments received by Sept 7 will be considered for
inclusion and be discussed during Sept 13 teleconference.

3.

      

Discussion of Test
and Certification Framework White Paper
Mark introduced the document and led the discussion.  Most people
had not read the document.  This document is to stimulate discussion
and to serve as a starting point. Comments on the document were discussed
as follows: 

Reaffirmation of this deliverable. Document is to provide guidance to
those interested in setting up testing programs.  It can provide
people with an idea of what is involved. It is important to differentiate
between conformance, validation, certification and
interoperability.  Suggestion to add pictures and flow charts of
organizational relationships and concepts.

4.

      

Other
Activities
The W3C QA Activity will be starting soon.  Its purpose is to
improve the quality of W3C specifications and their
implementations.  NIST will be participating on this committee and
will keep the TC posted.  The QA Activity plans to coordinate with
external organizations such as OASIS to leverage conformance work. 
ACTION ITEM: at the next teleconf  notify TC of W3C QA’s first
meeting.  Identify someone to act a liaison. 

Dave Marston provided an overview of the XSLT/XPath test methodology and
progress in developing a generic document for building test suites. The
document addresses keeping track of test cases, assembling tests (built
by several contributors), and information that must be contained in every
test. 

5.

      

Next
Teleconference: Sept 13 2001 at 2:00pm (eastern). 

Meeting Adjourned at 3:00pm