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Subject: Re: [cti-cybox] Network Connection Object


I disagree.  I think a network connection is the very basic concept of a device making a connection.  But all of the fields and properties and extensions are really part of the details of a network flow.  A network flow is more than the basic 7-tuple net flow stuff.   Netflow, SFlow, JFlow are just representations of a subset of a full network flow, basically just the statistical information.  


Thanks,

Bret



Bret Jordan CISSP
Director of Security Architecture and Standards | Office of the CTO
Blue Coat Systems
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"Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not be unscrambled is an egg." 

On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:36, Kirillov, Ivan A. <ikirillov@mitre.org> wrote:

I’m not really a fan of “Network Flow”. Our current Network Connection Object includes extensions such as HTTP and Network Socket that go far beyond simple network flow. When I hear “network flow”, I think of the basic 7-tuple netflow representation, and my concern is that users will think the same when seeing the name of this Object, which is misleading.
 
Regards,
Ivan
 
From: <cti-cybox@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
Date: Friday, September 2, 2016 at 11:34 AM
To: Bret Jordan <bret.jordan@bluecoat.com>, OASIS CTI TC CybOX SC list <cti-cybox@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [cti-cybox] Network Connection Object
 
I like that suggestion.
 
Allan
 
From: OASIS list <cti-cybox@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "Jordan, Bret" <bret.jordan@bluecoat.com>
Date: Friday, September 2, 2016 at 9:58 AM
To: OASIS list <cti-cybox@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [cti-cybox] Network Connection Object
 
I would like to propose that we rename the Network Connection object to Network Flow object.  Then if needed, created a specialized Network Connection State object to handle some of the use cases John-Mark was talking about, namely devices that may want to emit events in CybOX when a connection is opened or closed.  
 
As it stands right now, the current Network Connection object is really describing a Network Flow. Making this name change might really help remove some of the ambiguity associated with it. 

 

Thanks,
 
Bret
 
 
 
Bret Jordan CISSP
Director of Security Architecture and Standards | Office of the CTO
Blue Coat Systems
PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050
"Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not be unscrambled is an egg." 
 

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