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Subject: ISO customer service statement w.r.t. the "Country Code Collection"
Dear members, as of this morning, I received a statement from a ISO customer service representative: "The _Country Code Collection_ is not available for free and, as far as I am aware, will never be. The codes are the property of ISO and are copyright protected." Above citation is in direct reply to my request (below). Personally I do not think this is really answering my question, but I wanted to be sure, everyone on the TC can enjoy the message, kind of - so I share this: As the three words "counter Code Collection" are linked to https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB500001:en I **think** this statement narrowly focuses on the "product" offering and for sure not on say the numeric codes for countries, as I remember, you cannot copyright numbers ... but I maybe care to less to fully grok such non-issues (to me). B.t.w. My request was as follows (cited in full): """ Dear ISO Customer Service Team Member, in OASIS CTI STIX TC - of which I am an active member, some members are reluctant to include ISO-3166 as a reference, as the standard is not freely available and they are not even sure, the "Data" itself is (for commercial use). Question: Given, that the ISO Online Browsing Platform (OBP) offers the main asset (the 249 country codes and sub codes thereof) in a very convenient manner, it would allow us to refer to ISO-3166 if and only if this data is also commercially free available without resulting in additional fees. I think it is clear, that the term "usage" may foster fantasies of law experts on what one should not do with it, but we are interested in the usage (no advertisement no claim, that a software is supported by ISO etc.) So, as use case is it correct, that if a commercially available cyber threat intelligence software creates or receives a document, and encodes it's knowledge about some location as say "DE-BB" - this will be compliant with any whatsoever license for the data (which I by the way could not find) and does not incur any cost or risk of law. I am sure, that esp. in the linked detail pages, many source lists contains wikipedia CC-SA licensed data or from foreign governments, thus I am sure, that this data is not proprietary to ISO) but I am not a lawyer, and the uncertainty in the hearts and minds of our domain expert members hinders us currently in progressing in the usual consensual way. In ending, I would be very pleased, if you were so kind as to send me a response to this in the near future and many thanks in advance, Stefan Hagen """ PS: Over the weekend - me being nostalgic - I purchased the ISO-3166 prose (all parts) and my dear old friend ISO-8601 just as I owned the latter only in an old paper revision, to be able to more profoundly cite from it in my standards work for free ... personally, I really hoped this having to pay a dollar per mostly ineligible or at least barely readable prose page would have stopped long ago, but some things stay longer. Anyhow, good to contribute here, at OASIS. All the best, Stefan.
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