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Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label properties
I strongly support #1 as it meets what is needed and is by far the most intuitively clear on what it means. I would suggest the large majority of people would understand what it means.I would strongly disagree with #2. I would suggest that it would be found almost universally to be confusing and unclear on what labels are, what tags are and what the difference is. “Labels” is far too general to convey the specific meaning of a specific type of something (malware, threat actor, indicator, etc).
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From: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
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To: Wunder, John A.; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label propertiesThis email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and/or privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto.I like #2, this is what we had originally in STIX 2.0 before we merged them.
Bret
From: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Wunder, John A. <jwunder@mitre.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:31:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label propertiesHey all,
We discussed this on the working call and had a quick straw poll. The options we discussed were:
- *_types (indicator_types, malware_types, threat_actor_types, etc.): 5 votes
- Keep these values from the vocab in labels (as they are now), add a new property called tags to capture the user-defined tagging: 4 votes
- Something else: 0 votes
- Abstain: 5
If you haven’t weighed in on this topic yet, can you please shoot a message to the list to help us decide? It can be just a quick “I like #3”, or it can be something with a longer description, or it can be a new suggestion to consider. You can also comment on github: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/
cti-stix2/issues/37 .
We need to resolve this issue before we can finish CSD01 so any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
John
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> on behalf of Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber. com >
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 at 5:13 PM
To: "Bret Jordan (CS)" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>, John Wunder <jwunder@mitre.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >
Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label properties
Agree with Bret’s issues. I posted my comment to the github repo and suggested an alternative.
Allan Thomson
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" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM
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Subject: [cti-stix] Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label properties
From: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
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Subject: [EXT] [cti-stix] New property names for previous label properties
Hey all,
Per Issue 37 (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/
cti-stix2/issues/37 ), the TC has decided to stop using the labels property for the default vocabularies we have on some object types that generally categorizes the object. Given that change, we need to name the new properties on each of the objects that the change applies to.
After hearing from Jason on Slack, I captured some potential names in the last comment on that github issue (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/
cti-stix2/issues/37# ). Can you please take a moment and review those suggestions? If you agree, please +1 my comment or respond over e-mail. If you disagree and have a different suggestion, please comment in Github or respond over e-mail. I’d like to get at least a few people to positively agree to these decisions…especially if you were a proponent of making the change called out in the issue.issuecomment-379361610
You can find the vocabs themselves in Part 1 (https://docs.google.com/
document/d/ ) and the definitions for how they’re used in the objects in Part 2 (https://docs.google.com/1ShNq4c3e1CkfANmD9O--mdZ5H0O_ GLnjN28a_yrEaco/edit document/d/ ). Just search for the object name.1bkMmU1PxlwlAwjrMmyWV147rvLcRs 2x62FicHbpH2gU/edit
Many of the suggestions are “_type”…just note that there’s already a “type” property on the objects, so it would lead to both a required “type” property and a required “indicator_type” property on Indicator, for example. That may be fine, it was just pointed out already in Slack so I wanted to bring it up here.
Thanks!
John
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