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Subject: Groups - DITA Learning Content SC Meeting modified
Thanks to John Accardi for taking minutes! -- Scott Hudson DITA Learning Content SC Meeting has been modified by Scott Hudson Date: Thursday, 19 July 2007 Time: 04:00pm - 05:00pm ET Event Description: USA Toll Free Number: 866-880-0098 USA Toll Number: +1-210-795-1100 Australia Toll Free Number: 1-800-993-862 Australia Toll Number: 61-2-8205-8112 PASSCODE: 6396088 For information on specific country access dialing, see http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php. Agenda: Minutes: DITA Learning Content SC minutes 19 Jul 2007 Attendees: John Accardi Allyn Radford Robin Sloan Scott Hudson Primary agenda was to advance the IEEE LOM work initiated by Scott. Task was to fill in column H with elements/attribute in our SC structures that would apply. Much discussion began but not many value were filled in ... it seems like a slippery task Key discussion points: - IEEE LOM elements are mostly optional so that implementing organizations can select subsets important them for required treatment. Allyn mention that it is rare that any implementing organization uses all the elements/attributes. They pick the subset that works for them and makes them required as necessary to support processing and deployment. In other words, standards bodies make things optional for flexibility and implementing organizations make things mandatory to support their specific business requirements. - Scott mentioned that the LOM has nailed down the meaning, vocabulary and intentions of some things and is very vague about other things. For example, aggregation level has subjective values of 1, 2, 3 and 4. - Allyn brought up that we should check that Scott's spreadsheet is based on the lastest standard LOM (might be based on an earlier version). Vendor solutions typically going to IEEE LOM 1.0. - Scott needed the group to consider whether the LOM elements need representation across all our info types or only at map levels or both. Allyn brought up that we could consider an organization that groups elements/attributes that describe the behavior of content (like conditional display) in a separate, referenced metadata file but embeds elements/attributes that more directly describe the content itself, inside the topic or map files. Allyn brought up SCORM SCOs as an example that implements associated metadata files. Allyn also mentioned that in older HTML work, easier maintenance was supported with separated metadata files. Scott mentioned that the DITA way seemed to be object-oriented; keep the metadata inside the topic and map files, perhaps in the prolog structure. This way all is organized and travels together. - Scott reminded all that the idea was to be sure that our structures contained all the elements/attributes to map to the LOM, all in support of a LOM manifest. Allyn suggested that such data typically would primarily come from a map. John suggested that it might be helpful to look at a working manifest and work backwards to the source points in LOM and then to our structures. Allyn suggested we use an example like this from ADL. Suggestion to put structural stuff inside the topics themselves, while descriptive stuff could be handled via an attribute like metaref to point to an external metadata file. This would be more akin to how IMS can point to an external metadata file. - John asked for a big picture clarification of why mapping our elements/attributes to LOM was desirable. Scott and Allyn responded that if SCORM and IMS are based on some level of implementation of the IEEE LOM, then if our DITA SC also had all the LOM mapped, deliverables had a better chance of playing in those SCORM and IMS worlds. - John mentioned that it was difficult to easily see all our elements/attributes in support of quick, efficiently and best mappings to the LOM. - Allyn brought up potential confusion about what would be metadata versus real content. For example metadata for one content type might easily be seen as content proper in another. (e.g., Learning Content vs. Instructional Design) - Allyn also mentioned that the LOM might be inherently insufficient for learning content purposes. For example, the lack of some thing an learning objective. Scott agreed so the LOM should be considered just a minimum. - Scott and Allyn spoke about the fact that a high level perspective or diagram is needed, that relates SCORM, DITA, IMS. The lack of this hinders our LOM mapping exercise. This event is one in a list of recurring events. Other event dates in this series: Thursday, 14 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET Thursday, 21 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET Thursday, 28 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET Thursday, 05 July 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET Thursday, 12 July 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 26 July 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 02 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 09 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 16 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 23 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 30 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 06 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 13 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 20 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET Thursday, 27 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET View event details: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-learningspec/event.php?event_id=15062 PLEASE NOTE: If the above link does not work for you, your email application may be breaking the link into two pieces. 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