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Subject: Groups - DITA Learning Content SC Meeting modified



DITA Learning Content SC Meeting has been modified by Scott Hudson

Date:  Thursday, 06 September 2007
Time:  04:00pm - 05:00pm ET

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Agenda:
See agenda in the learning SC wiki - 
http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/LearningContent/6Sep2007Agenda

Minutes:
Bob Doyle
Wayne Gafford
Greg Davore
Scott Hudson
Jeff Deskins
John Hunt
Robin Sloan
Allyn Radford

# Status updates on our progress

    * Topic designs
          o We have complete draft designs, working schemas, and test sample content for the 

following topic types:
          o Learning Plan topic type. See August 9 meeting minutes.
          o Learning Overview topic type
          o Learning Summary topic type
          o Learning Assessment topic type
          o Learning Content topic type 

John has posted a first draft of language spec for the 5 learning topic types. (see the download 

page)

    * Metadata support
          o Scott Hudson is working on a draft design, schemas, and working samples for IEEE LOM 

metadata in the topic prologs of the five learning types, as specializations of the DITA data 

element. See IMS LOM design. 

Scott requested assistance pulling together the specialization. Allyn offered to help.

    * Learning Map Domain
          o Learning Map Domain provides a first draft design. We need to discuss:
                + Whether to allow nesting of learning objects
                + How to handle relationship tables 
    * Assessment interactions
          o We have agreed to develop a basic set of assessment interactions as a native DITA 

domain specialization, based on Reuben Tozman's six basic interaction types.
          o We may also support use of QTI interactions as a DITA foreign domain specialization, 

based on the following technical dependencies:
                + QTI must provide both DTD and XSD implementations.
                + QTI must provide processing support to SCORM.
                + QTI must provide processing support for any additional delivery targets, such 

as PDF or HTML. 

# Next steps

    * Turn the wiki pages with the topic designs into DITA topics, and publish a draft 

specification for the 5 topic types, for review and approval by the sub-committee. John Hunt to 

coordinate this. Target completion: September 6.
    * Complete a draft DITA specialization design for IEEE LOM, including working schemas and 

sample content. Scott Hudson to lead this. Target complete: September 27.
    * Resolve map domain issues and turn the wiki pages on the Learning Map domain into DITA 

topics, and publish a draft specification for the learning map domain, for review and approval by 

the sub-committee. John Hunt to lead this. Target completion: September 27.
    * Develop a draft spec, including working schemas and sample content, for the DITA 

interactions domain, for review and approval by the sub-committee. John Hunt, John Accardi, 

Reuben Tozman to lead this. Target completion: September 27.
    * Goal: By end of September, we have resolved issues and approved designs for the 5 topic 

types, the map domain, the native assessment interactions, and the metadata model, including 

working schemas and basic sample content.
    * October - December - We tackle processing, with primary target of SCORM and secondary 

target PDF, according to our Phased Design Plan. 

# Today's Topics:

    * We have these topics to address in September:

Wayne: concern with duplication of elements across the 5 topics (e.g. Objective). What is the 

strategy to make sure this is consistent across the topic types.

John: learningBase type should provide the spot for common definitions that are common across the 

 topic types.

Wayne: How do you make sure the language is the same across the topic types?

John: You are using the same element in the base, so this enables the reuse via conref.

Should take a "Use what you want to use" approach. You don't have to use all of them, and could 

take an iterative development approach, but we shouldn't require folks to populate all of this 

information.

Wayne and John to take a look at the element definitions again to make sure the overlap issue is 

addressed and documenting these.

    * the map domain - revisit, review, and discuss any remaining issues
          o Learning Map Domain provides a first draft design. We need to discuss:
                + Whether to allow nesting of learning objects
                + How to handle relationship tables

Domain makes it possible to use this in any map structure, rather than specifying a specific map 

type. This allows you to use the bookmap specialization to pull together the learning content you 

may already have created into a book deliverable (for example).

The type attribute on each of the learning topic refs would have to be enforced by the editor or 

the processing engine, but the type attribute is provided to enable this.

Allyn: If you were going to do a transform in DITA, would you use this to create the IMS 

manifest?

John: Yes, this learning object specification would go into the organizations part of the IMS 

manifest. This brings up the question about nesting of maps and higher levels of organization or 

hierarchy.

Greg: Decision is to whether you can reference an external learning object, or whether to nest 

learning objects inside the same map?

Scott: How are we supporting nested maps here?

John: if you have 1 map per learning object, perhaps you could create the higher level map that 

references other nested maps (or learning objects). We probably need to have a separate 

discussion of maprefs/nested maps. interested: Allyn, Jeff, Robin.

ACTION ITEMS:
1) John Hunt and Wayne Gafford to look at the element definitions again to make sure the overlap issue is addressed and documenting these.
2) John and Wayne to review the Learning Plan elements and add topics about them to the draft topic type spec.
3) Allyn, Jeff, Robin, John to review the map domain and come back with a proposal for higher-level nesting. 


This event is one in a list of recurring events.
Other event dates in this series:

Thursday, 14 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET
Thursday, 21 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET
Thursday, 28 June 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET
Thursday, 05 July 2007, 11:00am to 12:00pm ET
Thursday, 12 July 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 19 July 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 26 July 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 02 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 09 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 16 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 23 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 30 August 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 13 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 20 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET
Thursday, 27 September 2007, 04:00pm to 05:00pm ET

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