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Subject: Re: [dita-learningspec] Groups - HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap uploaded
I represent the ad-hoc use of assessments by creating new document type shells that simply integrate the learningDomain into whatever topic type I want--I don't for the most part use the learning-specific map or topic types at all. But I think your analysis is not quite right: learningContentRef is required, but adding a post-assessment ref would not (could not) cause learningOverviewRef to be required. It would require a learningContentRef. What is your specific requirement? Are you just creating an ad-hoc test? In that case I would argue that it's not a learning object, at least in the sense I understand learning object (learning content plus supporting material). A standalone assessment would be a separate thing, I think. But I'm also not an instructional designer.... Cheers, E. On 3/24/13 7:52 PM, "Amber Swope" <amber@ditastrategies.com> wrote: > Mark, > I¹ve reviewed your documents and thought that you had proposed to also relax > the structure of the <learningObject> element, but I didn¹t see that in your > proposal. Specifically, I need to create a collection of questions in a > separate learning map and cannot do this cleanly with the current map > definition because <learningObject> requires additional elements. If I use > <learningPostAssessment>, then I have to include empty <learningOverviewRef> > or <learningPreAssessmentRef> and <learningContentRef>. Or I have to use a > regular DITA map and forego using the <lom> elementsS > > I¹m curious if anyone else has run into this and if so, how did you solve it? > > DITA 1.2 Desired DITA 1.3 > <!ENTITY % learningObject.content > "((%topicmeta;)?, > (%learningPlanRef;)?, > ((%learningOverviewRef;) | > (%learningPreAssessmentRef;))*, > (%learningContentRef;)+, > ((%learningPostAssessmentRef;) | > (%learningSummaryRef;))*)"<!ENTITY % learningObject.content > "((%topicmeta;)?, > (%learningPlanRef;)?, > (%learningOverviewRef;)?, > (%learningPreAssessmentRef;)?, > (%learningContentRef;)?, > (%learningPostAssessmentRef;)?, > (%learningSummaryRef;))" > <map> > <title>Quiz</title> <learningObject> > <learningOverviewRef/> > <learningContentRef/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques1"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques2"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques3"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques4"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques5"/> > </learningObject> > </map> > > <map> > <title>Quiz</title> <learningObject> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques1"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques2"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques3"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques4"/> > <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques5"/> > </learningObject> > </map> > > > > The implications of relaxing the <learningObject> would be: > · Doesn¹t support instructional design best practices for unit > > · Allows flexible reusable units for creating assessment units > > > Eventually, I¹d like to see some better assessment support, but that¹s not > happening in DITA 1.3. > > Thanks, Amber > > > From: dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org > [mailto:dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Mark Myers > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:42 AM > To: dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: [dita-learningspec] Groups - HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal > 13089 - learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap uploaded > > Submitter's message > Hi All, > > Here is an HTML output of the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - > learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap. Please review and prepare to discuss > at an upcoming Learning and Training Content Specialization SC meeting. > > Regards, > Mark > > -- Mr. Mark Myers > Document Name: HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - > learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap > <https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-learningspec/document.php? > document_id=48502> > > Description > HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - learningObjectMap and > learningGroupMap > Download Latest Revision > <https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-learningspec/download.php/ > 48502/latest/topic-xhtml.zip> > Public Download Link > <https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=48502&wg_abbre > v=dita-learningspec> > > Submitter: Mr. Mark Myers > Group: DITA Learning and Training Content Specialization SC > Folder: working designs > Date submitted: 2013-03-08 06:41:42 > -- Eliot Kimber Senior Solutions Architect, RSI Content Solutions "Bringing Strategy, Content, and Technology Together" Main: 512.554.9368 www.rsicms.com www.rsuitecms.com Book: DITA For Practitioners, from XML Press, http://xmlpress.net/publications/dita/practitioners-1/
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