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Subject: Re: [dita-learningspec] Groups - HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap uploaded


I represent the ad-hoc use of assessments by creating new document type
shells that simply integrate the learningDomain into whatever topic type I
want--I don't for the most part use the learning-specific map or topic types
at all.

But I think your analysis is not quite right: learningContentRef is
required, but adding a post-assessment ref would not (could not) cause
learningOverviewRef to be required. It would require a learningContentRef.

What is your specific requirement? Are you just creating an ad-hoc test? In
that case I would argue that it's not a learning object, at least in the
sense I understand learning object (learning content plus supporting
material).

A standalone assessment would be a separate thing, I think. But I'm also not
an instructional designer....

Cheers,

E.

On 3/24/13 7:52 PM, "Amber Swope" <amber@ditastrategies.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> I¹ve reviewed your documents and thought that you had proposed to also relax
> the structure of the <learningObject> element, but I didn¹t see that in your
> proposal. Specifically, I need to create a collection of questions in a
> separate learning map and cannot do this cleanly with the current map
> definition because <learningObject> requires additional elements. If I use
> <learningPostAssessment>, then I have to include empty <learningOverviewRef>
> or <learningPreAssessmentRef> and <learningContentRef>. Or I have to use a
> regular DITA map and forego using the <lom> elementsS
>  
> I¹m curious if anyone else has run into this and if so, how did you solve it?
>  
> DITA 1.2 Desired DITA 1.3
> <!ENTITY % learningObject.content
>      "((%topicmeta;)?,
>        (%learningPlanRef;)?,
>        ((%learningOverviewRef;) |
>         (%learningPreAssessmentRef;))*,
>        (%learningContentRef;)+,
>        ((%learningPostAssessmentRef;) |
>         (%learningSummaryRef;))*)"<!ENTITY % learningObject.content
>      "((%topicmeta;)?,
>        (%learningPlanRef;)?,
>        (%learningOverviewRef;)?,
>        (%learningPreAssessmentRef;)?,
>        (%learningContentRef;)?,
>        (%learningPostAssessmentRef;)?,
>        (%learningSummaryRef;))"
> <map>
>   <title>Quiz</title>  <learningObject>
>     <learningOverviewRef/>
>     <learningContentRef/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques1"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques2"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques3"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques4"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques5"/>
>   </learningObject>
> </map>
> 
> <map> 
>   <title>Quiz</title>  <learningObject>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques1"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques2"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques3"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques4"/>
>     <learningPostAssessmentRef href="ques5"/>
>   </learningObject>
> </map>
> 
> 
>  
> The implications of relaxing the <learningObject> would be:
> ·         Doesn¹t support instructional design best practices for unit
> 
> ·         Allows flexible reusable units for creating assessment units
> 
>  
> Eventually, I¹d like to see some better assessment support, but that¹s not
> happening in DITA 1.3.
>  
> Thanks, Amber
>  
>  
> From: dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org
> [mailto:dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Mark Myers
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:42 AM
> To: dita-learningspec@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [dita-learningspec] Groups - HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal
> 13089 - learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap uploaded
>  
> Submitter's message
> Hi All,
> 
> Here is an HTML output of the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 -
> learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap. Please review and prepare to discuss
> at an upcoming Learning and Training Content Specialization SC meeting.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark 
> 
> -- Mr. Mark Myers
> Document Name: HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 -
> learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap
> <https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-learningspec/document.php?
> document_id=48502>
> 
> Description
> HTML for the DITA 1.3 stage 3 proposal 13089 - learningObjectMap and
> learningGroupMap 
> Download Latest Revision
> <https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-learningspec/download.php/
> 48502/latest/topic-xhtml.zip>
> Public Download Link
> <https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=48502&wg_abbre
> v=dita-learningspec>
> 
> Submitter: Mr. Mark Myers
> Group: DITA Learning and Training Content Specialization SC
> Folder: working designs
> Date submitted: 2013-03-08 06:41:42
>  

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