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Subject: Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] Refactoring HDITA with custom tags
So on to content models in the live converter...
Carlos' examples tend to follow the convention of including a p wrapper
inside list items and definition components. I added a look-ahead in these
contexts to add a p wrapper if the first node was not a p node, and this
now works equally either way for samples like this:
<article>
<h1>The point of it all</h1>
<p>I can sum it up here</p>
<p>I can say some more stuff</p>
<section>
<h2>Stuff</h2>
<p>And so on</p>
<ul> <li>This</li> <li>Is></li>
<li>A List</li> </ul>
</section>
<section-example>
<h2>And more stuff</h2>
<p>With its own explanation</p>
<dl>
<dt>No para in HTML</dt> <dd>No para in
HTML</dd>
<dt><p>With para</p></dt> <dd><p>with
para</p></dd>
</dl>
</section-example>
</article>
(try this in the paste box to see the lw topic result)
But this brings up a question: can list items and definition descriptions
only have one paragraph? That is what this tool will do (or wrap the mixed
content example in a possibly redundant paragraph). I think it is a blessing
to remove syntactic complexity from student authors, so I hope the HDITA
minimal case can relax the required paragraph burden, but tools then need
to have the right remediations for going into XDITA.
I realize that Markdown has no such ambiguity because you cannot start
a list item with a required paragraph anyway. In the Markdown case, then,
do you get only the one inner paragraph implied by the XDITA requirement?
__
Don
On 5/11/2016 8:16 AM, Carlos Evia wrote:
Oh I had some Polymer nightmares last year, but I think
most browsers play with custom tags now. Safari still doesn’t… but that
probably will change soon.
I like that Don’s http://ditax.ml/hd/experiment allows an author to enter an <article> without any fancy
custom tags and the result is a generic DITA topic. Jarno’s Markdown plugin
does something similar: an author can create a Markdown file without fancy
classes or extensions, and the result is a generic DITA topic.
Of course, then authors can specialize to concept, task,
reference as needed… but this gives people a Lightweight DITA base architecture
(think of the “Why three editions?” white paper that came with DITA 1.3).
You can be a casual contributor and create a simple topic in Markdown or
HTML5 and then someone else will mix it with XDITA or DITA. That’s an
excellent way to make Lightweight DITA accesible (and easy) before getting
into complicated markup/markdown like what we saw in the Bluemix examples.
Carlos
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Associate Professor of Technical Communication
Department of English
Center for Human-Computer Interaction
Virginia Tech
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On May 10, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Mark Giffin <mark@markgiffin.com>
wrote:
Hi Michael,
If you are talking about custom tags as in late-model W3C web components,
a custom tag can be pretty lightweight, since the browser itself will support
this capability (not sure if all major browsers turn them on by default
yet). You don't have to load an external library necessarily. It needs
a bit of _javascript_ that can be inside the HTML file itself. I'm not sure
about performance, I'm sure it depends on what you're doing.
Google's Polymer requires substantial external libraries and Polymer often
gets confused with W3C web components because it's related, but I'm not
talking about Polymer. I recall some info about Polymer having some performance
problems but that was a year ago.
This page gives a simple example of a W3C custom element with some CSS
to style it.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components/Custom_Elements
Please excuse if I completely misunderstood your question!
Mark Giffin
Mark Giffin Consulting, Inc.
http://markgiffin.com/
On 5/10/2016 12:47 PM, Michael Priestley wrote:
How much freight does custom tags add
to a displayable HTML page? Is there any impact on performance?
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/michael-priestley
From: Carlos
Evia <cevia@vt.edu>
To: dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: 05/10/2016
02:46 PM
Subject: [dita-lightweight-dita]
Refactoring HDITA with custom tags
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