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Subject: RE: [dita-translation] Draft proposal for dir attribute
Gershon, Ae you ready to submit a proposal for dir on Monday? See my agenda plans. JoAnn -----Original Message----- From: Gershon L Joseph [mailto:gershon@tech-tav.com] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM To: 'Robert D Anderson' Cc: bhertz@sdl.com; 'Bryan Schnabel'; 'Charles Pau'; 'Lieske, Christian'; 'Dave A Schell'; dita-translation@lists.oasis-open.org; dpooley@sdl.com; 'Felix Sasaki'; 'Richard Ishida'; Jennifer Linton; mambrose@sdl.com; patrickk@scriptware.nl; pcarey@lexmark.com; Peter.Reynolds@lionbridge.com; rfletcher@sdl.com; Sukumar.Munshi@lionbridge.com; tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; 'Yves Savourel' Subject: RE: [dita-translation] Draft proposal for dir attribute 1. I'm in agreement. 2. I think what I meant to write is if the document element does not specify dir or xml:lang, then assume LTR. I agree that if the document element specifies xml:lang, the direction derived from the Unicode spec for the specified language should prevail. It appears that the lro and rlo values are intended to override the default Unicode directionality and are applicable mainly at the output rendering stage (which is why they're in the HTML and XHTML specs). I believe we can omit them from DITA. Unless of course anyone else provides input that proves they are needed at the authoring stage... Best Regards, Gershon -----Original Message----- From: Robert D Anderson [mailto:robander@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:58 AM To: gershon@tech-tav.com Cc: bhertz@sdl.com; 'Bryan Schnabel'; Charles Pau; 'Lieske, Christian'; Dave A Schell; dita-translation@lists.oasis-open.org; dpooley@sdl.com; 'Felix Sasaki'; 'Richard Ishida'; 'Jennifer Linton'; mambrose@sdl.com; patrickk@scriptware.nl; pcarey@lexmark.com; Peter.Reynolds@lionbridge.com; rfletcher@sdl.com; Sukumar.Munshi@lionbridge.com; tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; 'Yves Savourel' Subject: Re: [dita-translation] Draft proposal for dir attribute Hello again -- only two short comments on the dir attribute. 1. As the one currently responsible for maintaining and bug-fixing the DTDs, I would strongly favor making it a universal attribute, rather than adding it to almost everything. 2. One of the points in the write-up says: "If the document element does not specify the dir attribute, assume left to right (ltr). " The previous bullet says that inline elements use the "specified language's default text direction". Wouldn't that be the case for the document as well? That is, if I indicate xml:lang="he-il" on my root topic element, then everything in the topic (such as tables, notes, and lists) should default to dir="rtl" unless otherwise specified. I do not know about the lro and rlo values -- does anybody here have tool experience that would indicate whether these are still needed? If tools still require them, then we should probably add them. Robert D Anderson
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