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Subject: FW: FW: [dita-translation] Specifying a list of target languages
from Felix JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD President Comtech Services, Inc. 710 Kipling Street, Suite 400 Denver CO 80215 303-232-7586 joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com -----Original Message----- From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:23 PM To: JoAnn Hackos Cc: Bryan Schnabel; christian.lieske@sap.com; dpooley@sdl.com; esrig-ia@esrig.com; rfletcher@sdl.com; Howard.Schwartz; ishida@w3.org; rmraya@maxprograms.com; tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; ysavourel@translate.com Subject: Re: FW: [dita-translation] Specifying a list of target languages Hello JoAnn, all, JoAnn Hackos さんは書きました: > > For those of you who are “observers” of the DITA Translation > Subcommittee, please review Gershon’s note. > > JoAnn > > JoAnn Hackos PhD > > President > > Comtech Services, Inc. > > joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com > > Skype joannhackos > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > *From:* Gershon Joseph (gerjosep) [mailto:gerjosep@cisco.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:49 AM > *To:* dita-translation@lists.oasis-open.org > *Subject:* [dita-translation] Specifying a list of target languages > > Hi all, > > We have encountered the following requirement, which I know also > applies to a number of other organizations I worked with before > joining Cisco. > > If there is an ITS spec for this, please could someone point me to the > relevant URL and section within the spec. > I think there is no mechanism to in ITS to implement your requirement directly. > Here is the issue: > > Some elements, particularly <note>, are not translated to all target > languages. Many notes (e.g. warning statements required to meet a > specific country or region's legal requirements) apply only to a > specific set of target languages. > > At present, DITA supports an on/off switch via @translate. > > I would like us to propose a solution for the case where authors need > to specify a set of target languages. I feel this would be best > achieved either by extending the definition of @translation to have > the values "yes | no | group" (I'm sure we can find a better word than > "group") and add another attribute that lists the target languages, or > leave @translate alone and simply add a new attribute that lists the > target languages (in which case, if the attribute is not set the > default is to translate to all target languages). I'd anticipate a > space-separated list of language/locale values, such as "it_IT fr_FR > fr_CA". > Having an additional attribute like @targetLanguages sounds good to me. A side issue is that probably you should specify what kind of values you expect, like BCP 47 language values (applied also in e.g. @xml:lang / HTML @lang, the HTTP language header etc.), see for the syntax http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4646 I think it would be good to not change the @translate attribute in Dita, since otherwise it would become incompatible with the ITS and other @translate attributes, which all currently only have the values "yes" and "no". Regards, Felix. > I read the blog on dita.xml.org that proposes use of a different > namespace, but namespaces most likely won't be supported by DITA until > release 2.0 at the earliest. > > I disagree with the statement on the blog that the CMS or translation > workflow should manage the target languages. We're talking about a set > of target languages that apply to a specific element, and relying on > the translation workflow for this is asking for trouble... This > information must be associated with the element it applies to. > > Suggestions? Comments? > > JoAnn, please could you forward this to the non-OASIS advisors to the > Translation SC. > > Thanks in advance for your help in driving this to a spec we can > submit to the DITA TC, and/or a best practice we can document. > > Gershon > > **Gershon Joseph** > **Technical Leader** > **PDI DocTools*** > * > gerjosep@cisco.com <mailto:gerjosep@cisco.com> > Phone: **+972 9 892-7157** > Mobile: **+972 57 314-1170** > > > > **Cisco Systems, Inc.** > > Israel > Cisco home page <http://www.cisco.com/global/IL/> > > > > Think before you print.Think before you print. > > This e-mail may contain confidential and privileged material for the > sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or > disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), > please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of > this message. > > Cisco Systems Limited (Company Number: 02558939), is registered in > England and Wales with its registered office at 1 Callaghan Square, > Cardiff, South Glamorgan CF10 5BT > >
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