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Subject: MEETING MINUTES -- 5 OCT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Minutes taken by Michael Priestley
MEETING MINUTES -- 5 OCT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end ***
** Agenda **
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0. Scribe for today's minutes
1. Roll call
2. Review/approve minutes from 28 September
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00007.html
3. Specification status
4. List issues:
- TC: terminology
- dita-users: image/@align, tm/image
5. DTD cleanup
- Alignment convention (elements, attributes, comments, etc.)
- Testing the DTDs and Schemas
6. AOB?
** Minutes **
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1. Roll call
Members: Bruce Esrig, Dave Schell, Deborah Lapeyre, France Baril, Indi Liepa, Michael Priestley, Paul Grosso, Robin Cover, Stanley Doherty, Don Day (10/21: no quorum)
Observers and visitors: Erik Hennum, Nancy Harrison, Alan Houser
minutes:
previous minutes cannot be approved given lack of quorum
open items were reviewed, no changes recommended
status of spec:
- don owing content for 2.0
- 2.0 content should be done by next week
- 3.0 stuff - erik and michael on the hook, other volunteers welcome
- next week:
- revisit question of separate spec for specialization
- should not affect 3.0 content so much;
just means dita references would become examples
terminology:
document type
- bruce: we're tending towards document type
- need input from eliot, joann- others who are absent
dita-users list issues:
- align attribute on image - legacy discussion to be added from don
(document image/@align along with the table/@style expectations)
- image in tm - but how would we sort?
processing right now is absent in dita toolkit in any case
so we need clear definition of expected behavior
france baril: not currently using
nokia: currently using, but as text only
don: will suggest using text that could be used as a lookup for an image
will also describe ibm's use - added by tool, only first one takes effect
can resume discussion on tc after discussion on dita-users
(to clarify intended use before undertaking design work)
action for don: reply to image align and tm notes in dita-users
DTD cleanup:
don proposes it's an editorial decision, leave it up to joann hackos
and michael priestley to decide, don will implement
action for don: add to agenda for next week's meeting
Testing DTDs and schemas:
- France Baril will investigate and return with some options
- don: we need to validate not only according to DTD or schema rules,
but also test somehow whether they follow the dita design pattern
- Indi: will forward comments from audit of their (nokia's) specialization process
- France: any easier to test design pattern on schemas? since they are xml,
easier to add validation transform
- Eric Sirois: current version of schemas not using inheritance (since
buggy in schema 1.0) - planning to write transform to help developers
validate their specialization - but not yet written
- action for Eric Sirois: provide XSLT validation for specialized schemas
once developed (presumably one for shell, one for module? or traverse
full schema from shell)
- don: ideally should work for both map and topic specialization
- eric: should it also validate style? (eg following debbie's suggestions)
- mp: suggest not, or at least optional - don't make conflicting house styles a validity issue
mp: I'll be absent next time for sigdoc
** Summary of Decisions **
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None today; no quorum.
** Action Required **
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017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general
extensibility and the creation of new elements not
necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open
(not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0).
021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion
of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of
7/20/04.
022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,
as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still
pending as of 7/20/04.
036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA
namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page
that describes what DITA does, etc. Still pending 8/17/04.
040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create
an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order
to create the 1.0 spec. Create a list of these items and
post it in the Documents area of the website. >>> This will
be ongoing.
043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to
the introduction. <<< Still pending as of 9/7/04.
051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute
and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms).
054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary
(terminology discussion) to the list.
055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list.
Ongoing.
056 Mary Macrae, 9/28/04 -- Get the dates for the OASIS forum in
New Orleans as a possible venue for the DITA F2F.
Closed 10/05/04 with this communique:
"second annual OASIS Symposium will be held in New Orleans,
LA on 25-29 April. TCs are strongly encouraged to fix this
date for a TC F2F meeting;"
057 Eliot Kimber, 9/28/04 -- Move the discussion on terminology
(and meta-terminology) to the list. Closed 10/05/04
058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC.
059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to keep
the full set of features for mitigating table migration.
060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of Nokia's
specialization process
061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- reply to image align and tm notes in
dita-users
062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for
specialized schemas once developed
** Issues to be Resolved **
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005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual
introduction be? >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.
006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in
a separate specification in order to make it easier to use
in other XML applications that otherwise have no
relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing.
008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues. New as
of 8/31/04.
009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda
for future discussion.
010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based
architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this
into the "Best Practices" document.
011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of
graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,
which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.
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