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Subject: MEETING MINUTES -- 09 NOV 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE


MEETING MINUTES -- 09 Nov 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** 


** Agenda ** 
------------ 
    1. Roll call

    2. Review/approve minutes from 2 November
         -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00006.html

    3. Specification status

    4. Tables
         - Formal vote on revised DITA feature proposal:

    5. List issues: 
         - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
         - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image

    6. DTD cleanup 
        - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with
          some options)

    7. AOB? 
    
    - Schedule reminder:
        - 17 Aug 2004 
                - First major milestone -- complete first draft
                  of first section and send out for review.  
                - Begin review of 1st section.
        - 07 Sep 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin
                  review of 2nd section.
        - 28 Sep 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin
                  review of 3rd section.  
        - 19 Oct 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 3rd section;
                  beginning of final review
        - 02 Nov 2004
                - Complete final review
        - 16 Nov 2004
                - Release 1.0 spec to OASIS


** Minutes ** 
------------- 
    1. Roll call
        - We have 11 of 18 --> QUORUM
        - Roll Call to be posted to the TC List separately.

    2. Review/approve minutes from 2 November
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00006.html
        - We went through the summary of decisions; the action
          items; the issues to be resolved.
        - Minutes approved.

    3. Specification status
        - Michael Priestley (MP) is still incorporating the
          comments; it's not ready for the next iteration.
        - MP has read the comments -- they are really good!
          Thanks to those who have contributed their comments so
          far!
        - MP expects to have the next iteration ready for next
          meeting.
        - Action required for all -- please continue to review
          and send comments to Michael!  
            - PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
            - CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
            - zipped source:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html
        - MP does not think he needs any additional help -- just
          the reviews.

    4. Tables
         - Formal vote on revised DITA feature proposal:  
            -
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/email/archives/200411/
msg00009.html
            - Approved by acclamation.

    5. List issues: 
         - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
            - There was discussion on the validity and clarity
              of the term "vocabulary".
            - The term "vocabulary" already does seem to have an
              industry-standard usage, even though this usage is
              not entirely appropriate or precise.
            - Proposal by Bruce Esrig -- Let Michael give it his
              best shot in the next draft of the spec, and we'll
              discuss it in our review of the spec.  Proposal
              seconded and approved by acclamation.  Action for
              Michael.
         
         - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image
            - Not covered

    6. DTD cleanup 
        - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with
          some options)
            - Not covered.

    7. AOB? 
        - Not covered.


** Summary of Decisions ** 
--------------------------
    - The revised DITA table feature proposal was APPPROVED
 
(http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/email/archives/200411
/msg00009.html)

    - Michael will give the "vocabulary" terminology explanation
      his best shot in the next draft of the spec, where it will
      be reviewed by everyone.
        

** Action Required ** 
--------------------- 
    017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about
        general extensibility and the creation of new elements
        not necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still
        open (not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 

    021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the
        discussion of substitution and post to the TC list.
        Still pending as of 7/20/04. 

    022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study"
        tutorial/demo, as per JoAnn's comments regarding the
        DITA sessions. Still pending as of 7/20/04. 

    036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA
        namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS
        page that describes what DITA does, etc.   Still pending
        8/17/04.

    040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to
        create an inventory of all the things we need to close
        on in order to create the 1.0 spec.  Create a list of
        these items and post it in the Documents area of the
        website.  >>> This will be ongoing.

    043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement
        to the introduction.  <<< Done as of 11/2/04.

    051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale
        attribute and related issues to the list (presentation
        mechanisms).

    052 Don Day, 9/14/04 -- Is anyone other than IBM actually
        using the scale attribute? Don to ask on dita-users
        forum; get usage info for next week's discussion. <<< We
        haven't heard from anyone else, so we'll assume that IBM
        is the primary user that has significant legacy usage of
        the @scale attribute.  Closed 9/28/04.

    054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about
        vocabulary (terminology discussion) to the list.  <<<
        Closed 11/9/04.

    055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list.
        Ongoing.

    058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC.
        10/12/04 -- Need to write up the notes.  <<< Don will
        write up a summary.  Closed 11/9/04.

    059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to
        keep the full set of features for mitigating table
        migration.  <<< Agenda item for 11/9/04.

    060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of
        Nokia's specialization process Closed today: Indi Leepa
        comments. Have been transmitted to DITA user group. <<<
        Done as of 11/2/04.

    061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- Reply to image align and tm notes
        in dita-users.  <<< Agenda item for 11/9/04.

    062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for
        specialized schemas once developed (Indi recommends
        Jarno to work with him)

    063 All, 11/02/04, 11/09/04 -- Provide comments to Michael
        Priestley on the draft -- provide comments to Michael
        ASAP.  Here are the URLs for the draft -- 

            - PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
            - CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
            - zipped source:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html

        Michael Priestley to incorporate comments into draft
        specification; prepare new iteration for 11/16 meeting.

    065 Don Day, 11/02/04 -- Don will edit the msg00009 to
        incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and
        send out again as a new proposal (to be decided by
        ballot, or at next meeting with no discussion --
        discussion to take place by email).

    066 Don Day, 11/09/04 -- Don has a list of bug fixes to
        submit.

    067 Michael Priestley, 11/09/04 -- Michael will give the
        "vocabulary" terminology explanation his best shot in
        the next draft of the spec, where it will be reviewed by
        everyone.


** Issues to be Resolved ** 
--------------------------- 

    005 All -- What should the scope and length of the
        conceptual introduction be?  >>> We'll get this from
        JoAnn.  >>> Still pending as of 11/9/04.

    006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be
        documented in a separate specification in order to make
        it easier to use in other XML applications that
        otherwise have no relationship to topic-based writing?
        >>> Ongoing.

    008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues.  New
        as of 8/31/04.  >>> Resolved as of 11/9/04.

    009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the
        agenda for future discussion.

    010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based
        architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate
        this into the "Best Practices" document.

    011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment
        of graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
        Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,
        which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.

<END> 


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