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Subject: Re: [dita] Reapproving approved proposals
- From: Michael Priestley <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com>
- To: Dana Spradley <dana.spradley@oracle.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:38:07 -0400
Given that each feature has been approved
by a majority vote of the TC, should it require a majority vote of the
TC to re-open? Otherwise the original vote has no meaning.
I think it's important that this particular
design revisit is managed quickly and without it becoming a precedent that
tosses out our existing investment in process. If the subteam can't come
to an agreement by Tuesday's meeting I think it should go to a vote as
to whether the design should be opened at all. I do think Paul has legitimate
concerns, but I also think this shouldn't open the door to revisit every
compromise we've managed to achieve in the last year.
We are missing committed dates with
teams that have invested considerable development team in a design they
thought was stable. Our credibility with our development community is on
the line.
Michael Priestley
IBM DITA Architect and Classification Schema PDT Lead
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
Dana Spradley <dana.spradley@oracle.com>
08/09/2006 12:25 PM
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Actually, on second thought, and as a matter
of principle, I don't know - when it comes to approving a design, maybe
we should be able to resurrect old objections if the final design doesn't
satisfy and instead begs all these old questions over again.
Nothing's in the standard until the design is approved - and even then,
at some later date we could all decide we did something wrong, and deprecate
the solution until it can be eliminated from the standard.
--Dana
Dana Spradley wrote:
I agree. If opposing this innovation had
been important to me, I should have done so before we approved the proposal.
On the other hand, I would like to question Chris's notion that since topics
appear in the table of contents, they shouldn't appear in the index.
The index provides an alternative, alphabetical method for looking up topics
of interest - instead of going over the TOC with a fine tooth comb to find
what you're interested in.
And I think that may turn out to be how many authors end up using the index
range feature - to index entire topics.
Should the implemention give them some easy method to accomplish that -
by inserting one element instead of two?
--Dana
JoAnn Hackos wrote:
Hi Chris et al.
We're just speculating about the
concept of page range. I'm sure we all continue to agree that page ranges
are appropriate for the model. I was part of the earlier debate, as you
know.
Let's concentrate on the mechanism.
However, it is still a good idea to advocate best practices in white papers
on the indexing issue, just as we have tried to do with the Translation
SC's best practice on indexing. You don't have to do it this way, but it
might help.
Let's all focus on the mechanism
at this point.
JoAnn
JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
President
Comtech Services, Inc.
710 Kipling Street, Suite 400
Denver CO 80215
303-232-7586
joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com
From: Chris Wong [mailto:cwong@idiominc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:37 AM
To: dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [dita] Reapproving approved proposals
This is more of a procedural question here,
touched off by our reopening the indexterm debate. Months ago, we spent
weeks debating, compromising and writing up proposals, DTDs and language
reference material for indexing enhancements. We voted twice to approve
this. But now the whole thing is reopened for debate and it looks like
everything is up for grabs again.
What does it mean to approve something,
if it can come apart at any time?
Chris
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