RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)

[Deborah_Pickett@moldflow.com]

Hi Jeff, Eliot,

If <ph> is allowed as the child
of every element that allows PCDATA, that would of course work.  But
I suspect that there are far-reaching consequences of opening up the content
model of some elements that currently allow text but not <ph>.  <ph>
can contain inline images, for instance, which might not be desirable.
 Do we allow <ph> inside <data>?  That brings in
a lot of other markup too.    This could be avoided if a lightweight
element like <text> were used instead.  Since <text> can
contain no child elements other than more <text> (and the usual bits
like <data>), there's no possibility of escape.  But I don't
feel strongly about the particulars of implementation.

It would be interesting to see if the
constraints proposal could help here.

I leave open the question of whether
it is desirable or useful to let <text> be specialized further.

-- 
Deborah Pickett
Information Architect, Moldflow Corporation, Melbourne
Deborah_Pickett@moldflow.com

"Ogden, Jeff" <jogden@ptc.com>

16/08/2007 01:18 AM

To	"Eliot Kimber" <ekimber@reallysi.com>, <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
cc
Subject	RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)

Sounds as if <ph> should
be a specialization of <text>.  We are probably trapped by the
past, however.  
 
I wonder of <text> should
be a specialization of anything or just a new addition to the base element
set for topics and maps.
 
    -Jeff

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From: Eliot Kimber [mailto:ekimber@reallysi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:55 AM
To: dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)
 
“text” is a specialization of phrase that
serves two purposes:
1.
  Allows content model constraints
(e.g., (data, text) rather than (data | ph))
2.
  Makes the semantic clear (i.e.,
just a container of PCDATA with no other meaning or presentation expectation
 
Cheers,
 
E.
----
W. Eliot Kimber
Senior Solutions Architect
Really Strategies, Inc.
512 554 9368
 
From: Ogden, Jeff [mailto:jogden@ptc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:49 AM
To: Deborah_Pickett@moldflow.com; dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)
 
What is the difference between
<ph> and <text>?  Are both needed?  
 
   -Jeff