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Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
Hi Don,
The main difference is that the CPAN site is already organized to support this usage model. The very first thing listed on the CPAN page is "Perl Modules", and it takes you to a page with links for search or for browsing a categorized list of modules.
But specializations aren't even listed on the Resources page, and there isn't any consistency in the descriptions of the few specializations that are mentioned on the site.
So, here would be my suggestions:
(1) Create a place to put the specializations. Set up some kind of base hierarchy / taxonomy scheme. Make it searchable. Post guidelines on how it is intended to be organized.
(2) Create a standard for how they should be posted: which files to include, what kind of documentation and samples to include. Document this standard clearly.
(3) Post a few examples to get it started -- e.g., the already existing specializations for Learning and Training, Troubleshooting, and Music, which are listed in the Wiki Knowledgebase article, "Introduction to Specializations" (but links either don't work, or point to Sourceforge).
Maybe Sourceforge is a better place, if that's where people are already posting these?
Thanks,
Seraphim Larsen
Intel Corporation * ECG TechComm
Chandler, AZ * (480) 552-6504
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Day [mailto:dond@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:33 AM
To: dita
Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
Your suggestion has a lot of value, Seraphim. How would you see CPAN as
being like or different than the DITA Focus Area, http://dita.xml.org? For
example, what kind of file hosting service and interface might be needed by
that Drupal site to make it more equivalent?
Regards,
--
Don Day
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Architect, Lightweight DITA Publishing Solutions
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Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"
--T.S. Eliot
From: "Larsen, Seraphim L" <seraphim.l.larsen@intel.com>
To: dita <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Cc: "Ogden, Jeff" <jogden@ptc.com>, Eliot Kimber <ekimber@reallysi.com>
Date: 11/06/2008 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
I've always envisioned a DITA archive like the CPAN archive for Perl (
http://cpan.org/).
Could OASIS set up a site like that?
If not, could something like that be hosted on sourceforge?
Seraphim Larsen
Intel Corporation * ECG TechComm
Chandler, AZ * (480) 552-6504
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ogden, Jeff [mailto:jogden@ptc.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:18 AM
To: Eliot Kimber; dita
Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
Eliot, I agree with the comments from both of your e-mails on this
topic.
Is there a good place for people and organizations to informally share
new specializations? Part of the DITA area on xml.org? That might be a
way to encourage sharing of DITA specializations that are not formally
standardized. It might be a good way to share early versions of new
specializations before they become standardized as well.
If the specializations don't need to be formally standardized, would the
DITA Adoption TC be a better forum for encouraging this sort of thing
than the DITA TC with its focus on standards development?
-Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eliot Kimber [mailto:ekimber@reallysi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:05 PM
> To: dita
> Subject: Re: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
>
> On 11/4/08 5:01 PM, "Eliot Kimber" <ekimber@reallysi.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/4/08 3:10 PM, "Robert D Anderson" <robander@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So - is there anybody on the TC interested in working on a
> specialization
> >> for the nuclear industry? If so, we can set up a subcommittee to
start
> work
> >> based on what has already been done. If so, please send a note
briefly
> >> describing your interest level (observer vs active participant). If
> you'd
> >> rather not send directly to the list at this point, you can send to
me
> and
> >> I'll collect responses; if you do that, please also copy Don Day,
as
> I'll
> >> be offline some of the next week and want to be sure I don't miss
any
> >> notes.
> >
> > While I'm sure such a specialization is quite valuable and it's
exciting
> to
> > see this type of activity happening, I worry that we are starting to
set
> a
> > precedent by which every community of interest that might find DITA
> useful
> > wants to be a subcommittee.
> >
> > I don't think that's either necessary or productive in the long run.
> DITA is
> > expressly designed to enable unilateral extension that does not need
to
> be
> > coordinated with the base standard in order to be both reliably
> > interchangeable and potentially useful as a standard in its own
right.
> >
> > There's absolutely no reason that something like a nuclear industry
> > specialization couldn't be developed as a completely separate effort
> within
> > whatever standards community serves the nuclear power industry.
>
> Michael Priestly pointed out privately that there might be communities
of
> interest that do not have an existing standards-making body that could
> host
> a DITA specialization standard, in which case the DITA TC would be a
> natural
> home. I agree completely.
>
> My main intent is that it's clear to the DITA community at large that
> standardization within the DITA TC is not a *requirement* for
standardized
> DITA specialization, nor is standardization within OASIS a
requirement.
>
> For example, if the Air Transport Association wanted to define an
> aircraft-industry-specific set of specializations, it would make sense
for
> the ATA to host that activity--no need for it to be done under the TC
just
> because it happens to be a DITA-based XML application.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eliot
>
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