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Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?


Sounds like this might be something that should be forwarded to the DITA
Adoption TC - they can work on setup issues, etc.

Regards,

Mary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larsen, Seraphim L [mailto:seraphim.l.larsen@intel.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: Don Day; dita
> Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> The main difference is that the CPAN site is already organized to
> support this usage model.  The very first thing listed on the CPAN page
> is "Perl Modules", and it takes you to a page with links for search or
> for browsing a categorized list of modules.
> 
> But specializations aren't even listed on the Resources page, and there
> isn't any consistency in the descriptions of the few specializations
> that are mentioned on the site.
> 
> So, here would be my suggestions:
> 
> (1) Create a place to put the specializations.  Set up some kind of
> base hierarchy / taxonomy scheme.  Make it searchable.  Post guidelines
> on how it is intended to be organized.
> (2) Create a standard for how they should be posted:  which files to
> include, what kind of documentation and samples to include.  Document
> this standard clearly.
> (3) Post a few examples to get it started -- e.g., the already existing
> specializations for Learning and Training, Troubleshooting, and Music,
> which are listed in the Wiki Knowledgebase article, "Introduction to
> Specializations" (but links either don't work, or point to
> Sourceforge).
> 
> Maybe Sourceforge is a better place, if that's where people are already
> posting these?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Seraphim Larsen
> Intel Corporation * ECG TechComm
> Chandler, AZ * (480) 552-6504
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Day [mailto:dond@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:33 AM
> To: dita
> Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
> 
> Your suggestion has a lot of value, Seraphim. How would you see CPAN as
> being like or different than the DITA Focus Area, http://dita.xml.org?
> For
> example, what kind of file hosting service and interface might be
> needed by
> that Drupal site to make it more equivalent?
> 
> Regards,
> --
> Don Day
> Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
> Architect, Lightweight DITA Publishing Solutions
> Email: dond@us.ibm.com
> 11501 Burnet Rd. MS9033E015, Austin TX 78758
> Phone: +1 512-244-2868 (home office)
> 
> "Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
>  Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"
>    --T.S. Eliot
> 
> 
> 
>   From:       "Larsen, Seraphim L" <seraphim.l.larsen@intel.com>
> 
>   To:         dita <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>   Cc:         "Ogden, Jeff" <jogden@ptc.com>, Eliot Kimber
> <ekimber@reallysi.com>
> 
>   Date:       11/06/2008 12:01 PM
> 
>   Subject:    RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've always envisioned a DITA archive like the CPAN archive for Perl (
> http://cpan.org/).
> 
> Could OASIS set up a site like that?
> 
> If not, could something like that be hosted on sourceforge?
> 
> 
> Seraphim Larsen
> Intel Corporation * ECG TechComm
> Chandler, AZ * (480) 552-6504
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ogden, Jeff [mailto:jogden@ptc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:18 AM
> To: Eliot Kimber; dita
> Subject: RE: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
> 
> Eliot, I agree with the comments from both of your e-mails on this
> topic.
> 
> Is there a good place for people and organizations to informally share
> new specializations?  Part of the DITA area on xml.org?  That might be
> a
> way to encourage sharing of DITA specializations that are not formally
> standardized. It might be a good way to share early versions of new
> specializations before they become standardized as well.
> 
> If the specializations don't need to be formally standardized, would
> the
> DITA Adoption TC be a better forum for encouraging this sort of thing
> than the DITA TC with its focus on standards development?
> 
>    -Jeff
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eliot Kimber [mailto:ekimber@reallysi.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:05 PM
> > To: dita
> > Subject: Re: [dita] DITA goes Nuclear?
> >
> > On 11/4/08 5:01 PM, "Eliot Kimber" <ekimber@reallysi.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/4/08 3:10 PM, "Robert D Anderson" <robander@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> So - is there anybody on the TC interested in working on a
> > specialization
> > >> for the nuclear industry? If so, we can set up a subcommittee to
> start
> > work
> > >> based on what has already been done. If so, please send a note
> briefly
> > >> describing your interest level (observer vs active participant).
> If
> > you'd
> > >> rather not send directly to the list at this point, you can send
> to
> me
> > and
> > >> I'll collect responses; if you do that, please also copy Don Day,
> as
> > I'll
> > >> be offline some of the next week and want to be sure I don't miss
> any
> > >> notes.
> > >
> > > While I'm sure such a specialization is quite valuable and it's
> exciting
> > to
> > > see this type of activity happening, I worry that we are starting
> to
> set
> > a
> > > precedent by which every community of interest that might find DITA
> > useful
> > > wants to be a subcommittee.
> > >
> > > I don't think that's either necessary or productive in the long
> run.
> > DITA is
> > > expressly designed to enable unilateral extension that does not
> need
> to
> > be
> > > coordinated with the base standard in order to be both reliably
> > > interchangeable and potentially useful as a standard in its own
> right.
> > >
> > > There's absolutely no reason that something like a nuclear industry
> > > specialization couldn't be developed as a completely separate
> effort
> > within
> > > whatever standards community serves the nuclear power industry.
> >
> > Michael Priestly pointed out privately that there might be
> communities
> of
> > interest that do not have an existing standards-making body that
> could
> > host
> > a DITA specialization standard, in which case the DITA TC would be a
> > natural
> > home.  I agree completely.
> >
> > My main intent is that it's clear to the DITA community at large that
> > standardization within the DITA TC is not a *requirement* for
> standardized
> > DITA specialization, nor is standardization within OASIS a
> requirement.
> >
> > For example, if the Air Transport Association wanted to define an
> > aircraft-industry-specific set of specializations, it would make
> sense
> for
> > the ATA to host that activity--no need for it to be done under the TC
> just
> > because it happens to be a DITA-based XML application.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Eliot
> >
> > ----
> > Eliot Kimber | Senior Solutions Architect | Really Strategies, Inc.
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