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Subject: Fwd: TC minutes for May 4


I just saw that Glen sent the minutes directly to me and not the list ...

Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: TC minutes for May 4
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:12:50 -0400
From: Glenn Emerson <Glenn.Emerson@gemersonconsulting.com>
Reply-To: <Glenn.Emerson@gemersonconsulting.com>
Organization: G. Emerson Consulting, Inc.
To: 'Kristen James Eberlein' <kris@eberleinconsulting.com>


Minutes for Tuesday May 4, 2010

 

Chaired by Don Day

Minutes by Glenn Emerson

 

1. Roll Call: Quorum present.

Regrets from: Seth Park

2. Approve minutes from previous meeting, as amended

(http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/email/archives/201005/msg00000.html).

Minutes accepted by acclamation. Don moved, Kristen seconded.

 

Postponed Gershon's report on DITA Adoption TC meeting to next meeting.

 

ACTIONS:

1. Kris to remove references to "head schema" in spec.

2. Eliot and Paul to discuss Schema example with Eric Sirois to determine if it is valid.

3. Gershon to post a request to members of the TC to handle the PDF formatting issues.

4. Kris to contact Mary McRae about whether temporary URLs are needed in the heading of the specification release.

5. Kris to talk with Robert Anderson about creation of TOC outline numbering in Spec Web Page release.

 

BUSINESS:

1. Don turned floor over to Kristen to direct discussion about status of review round 4.

Kris referenced 6 items on Wiki page that are critical for OASIS approval.

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/FrontPage

 

Kris stated that the review was on track. Review comments at

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/TechReview4#Reviewstatus.3AHandlingreviewcomments

 

Discussion of some of the comments. Kris asked for any recollection of "head schema" and the sense was that the term was supposed to be removed.

 

Kris turned the floor to Gershon to discuss the processing area.

 

Gershon discussed his priority tagging notation for dealing with comments: Substantive with yellow icon must be addressed; Substantive with blue icon are nice to be addressed, include organization issues, content not making sense to reviewers, etc.; Editorial with green icon is wordsmithing, but not critical; remainder of categories are not essential to complete before the 1.2 spec is released. For example, see LEGEND section on

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/processing-ditaAddressing4

 

Kris asked Eliot or Paul to address the Configuration, extension and constraints section. Eliot has looked through the comments, did not see anything too onerous. Paul requested input on items in red from other members of the call. The first issue was raised by Robert Anderson, but he was not on the call. Michael summarized Robert's objection to the wording about the DITA doctypes, which position is shared by many.

 

Next issue was over the inconsistency over use of FPIs versus URNs in the DTD topics. Most instances use FPIs, one used a URN. All examples are correct, but the consistency is at question. Agreed to use FPI in all examples so as not to confuse the reader by implying significance where none exists.

 

Next substantive issue was an invalid schema example for discussion with Eric Sirois.

 

An editorial issue about reference to SVG DTD was discussed.

 

A substantive issue about topic name for "Module Entity Declaration File" was raised--improper topic name. Eliot to examine.

 

Kris stated there are two weeks (May 18th) remaining for these comments to be addressed. Less important editorial comments to be addressed in a second pass if time permits.

 

John Hunt joined the call to discuss two comments from Kris about "unnecessary levels of nesting". John agreed to address these.

 

Kris mentioned that most of the changes to the language reference were minor editorial changes or typos, and these could be left to Robert to address at his discretion.

 

 

3. PDF Formatting Issues discussion.

Problems with hyperlinks and text in table cells.

Kris asked if Gershon needs help. Gershon was willing to send an announcement to the TC to ask if someone could take this issue on.

 

 

4. DITA 1.2 Spec overview

Kris to contact Mary McRae about temporary links on top of spec.

 

5. DITA 1.2 TOC Page

Kris to speak with Robert Anderson about how to create outline numbering in web-based release of DITA spec.

 

6. Review action items

 

7. Don adjourned the meeting at 1200 EDT.

 

Thank you,

Glenn

G. Emerson Consulting, Inc.

OASIS DITA TC Member

 +1-585-732-6984 | Twitter: Glenn_Emerson | Skype: glenn.emerson | www.gemersonconsulting.com

 

Minutes for Tuesday May 4, 2010

Chaired by Don Day 
Minutes by Glenn Emerson

1. Roll Call: Quorum present.
Regrets from: Seth Park
2. Approve minutes from previous meeting, as amended (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/email/archives/201005/msg00000.html). Minutes accepted by acclamation. Don moved, Kristen seconded.

Postponed Gershon's report on DITA Adoption TC meeting to next meeting.

ACTIONS:
1. Kris to remove references to "head schema" in spec.
2. Eliot and Paul to discuss Schema example with Eric Sirois to determine if it is valid.
3. Gershon to post a request to members of the TC to handle the PDF formatting issues.
4. Kris to contact Mary McRae about whether temporary URLs are needed in the heading of the specification release.
5. Kris to talk with Robert Anderson about creation of TOC outline numbering in Spec Web Page release.

BUSINESS:
1. Don turned floor over to Kristen to direct discussion about status of review round 4. 
Kris referenced 6 items on Wiki page that are critical for OASIS approval. http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/FrontPage

Kris stated that the review was on track. Review comments at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/TechReview4#Reviewstatus.3AHandlingreviewcomments

Discussion of some of the comments. Kris asked for any recollection of "head schema" and the sense was that the term was supposed to be removed.

Kris turned the floor to Gershon to discuss the processing area.

Gershon discussed his priority tagging notation for dealing with comments: Substantive with yellow icon must be addressed; Substantive with blue icon are nice to be addressed, include organization issues, content not making sense to reviewers, etc.; Editorial with green icon is wordsmithing, but not critical; remainder of categories are not essential to complete before the 1.2 spec is released.
For example, see LEGEND section on http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/processing-ditaAddressing4

Kris asked Eliot or Paul to address the Configuration, extension and constraints section.
Eliot has looked through the comments, did not see anything too onerous. Paul requested input on items in red from other members of the call. The first issue was raised by Robert Anderson, but he was not on the call. Don summarized Robert's objection to the wording about the DITA doctypes, which position is shared by many.

Next issue was over the inconsistency over use of FPIs versus URNs in the DTD topics. Most instances use FPIs, one used a URN. All examples are correct, but the consistency is at question. Agreed to use FPI in all examples so as not to confuse the reader by implying significance where none exists.

Next substantive issue was an invalid schema example for discussion with Eric Sirois.

An editorial issue about reference to SVG DTD was discussed.

A substantive issue about topic name for "Module Entity Declaration File" was raised--improper topic name. Eliot to examine.


Kris stated there are two weeks (May 18th) remaining for these comments to be addressed.

Less important editorial comments to be addressed in a second pass if time permits.


John Hunt joined the call to discuss two comments from Kris about "unnecessary levels of nesting". John agreed to address these.


Kris mentioned that most of the changes to the language reference were minor editorial changes or typos, and these could be left to Robert to address at his discretion.


3. PDF Formatting Issues discussion.
Problems with hyperlinks and text in table cells.
Kris asked if Gershon needs help. Gershon was willing to send an announcement to the TC to ask if someone could take this issue on.


4. DITA 1.2 Spec overview
Kris to contact Mary McRae about temporary links on top of spec.

5. DITA 1.2 TOC Page
Kris to speak with Robert Anderson about how to create outline numbering in web-based release of DITA spec.

6. Review action items

7. Don adjourned the meeting at 1200 EDT.


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