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Subject: Re: [dita] Ramifications of changing an existing namespace
The namespace cannot be changed because of backward compatibility requirements in DITA 1.x. That is, if the namespace were changed, all existing DITA documents and document types would be broken. Not to mention software that uses the namespace name in some way (such as to recognize DITA documents, which is it's purpose). Cheers, Eliot On 6/23/10 7:26 AM, "Kristen James Eberlein" <kris@eberleinconsulting.com> wrote: > Hi, Mary and others. > > The namespace http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is officially part > of the OASIS DITA 1.0 and OASIS DITA 1.1 specifications. See the following > topics in the specifications: > * http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/OS/langspec/langref/topic.html > * http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.0/langspec/topic.html > Can someone clearly and thoroughly explain just what the ramifications would > be if we were to change this to align with OASIS's namespace policies? > > Best, > > Kris > > Kristen James Eberlein > Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting > Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee > Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee > www.eberleinconsulting.com <http://www.eberleinconsulting.com/> > +1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype) > > On 6/23/2010 7:56 AM, Mary McRae wrote: >> The namespace http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is not allowed. >> We >> do use a redirect of sorts to deliver the namespace document at the namespace >> location, but dita.oasis-open.org <http://dita.oasis-open.org> is not >> allowed. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Don Day wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Is it possible to set a redirect for the location >>> http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ that simply goes to the >>> preferred OASIS hosting address? That would seem to be the easiest way >>> forward and avoids the current case of a 404 return message, which fits my >>> definition of "the principle of astonishment" that standards usually try to >>> avoid! ;-) >>> >>> -- >>> Don Day >>> >>> Grosso, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mary, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We aren't communicating. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know what "it" isn't the issue for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know what it means for a namespace to be at a location. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The DITA namespace name is http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/. >>>> That is unchangeable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When someone puts a namespace name into a browser, they are supposed to be >>>> served a namespace document. That is a recommendation of the W3C Technical >>>> Advisory Group headed by Tim Berners-Lee. I don't not want to see OASIS >>>> violate this, and I would hope you and the other people who make OASIS >>>> policy [isn't that supposed to be the OASIS members, i.e., us] would not >>>> want to violate this either. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So something needs to be served when >>>> http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is accessed. The easiest way >>>> to do that is to put something at >>>> http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/index.htm. That something can >>>> either be the namespace document or a document that redirects to a copy of >>>> the namespace document. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2010 June 22 21:28 >>>> To: Grosso, Paul >>>> Cc: Kristen James Eberlein; DITA TC >>>> Subject: Re: [dita] Re: DITA 1.2, CD 02 submission (DITA1.2-CD02.zip) >>>> uploaded >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No, that's not the issue. OASIS requires all namespaces to live at >>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/dita/... or >>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/ns. If a namespace was declared prior to >>>> the >>>> naming guidelines going into effect (which created the explicit 'ns' in the >>>> path) then it must be at http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/... It can't be >>>> at >>>> dita.oasis-open.org <http://dita.oasis-open.org/> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Grosso, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The namespace must live on http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita - it cannot live >>>> at the site of the focus area. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I assume by "namespace" you mean the namespace document. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The namespace name is http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since the namespace document has to be returned when one accesses the >>>> namespace name, the namespace document (or perhaps a redirect to it) has to >>>> reside at http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/index.htm. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- Eliot Kimber Senior Solutions Architect "Bringing Strategy, Content, and Technology Together" Main: 512.554.9368 www.reallysi.com www.rsuitecms.com
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