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Subject: Re: [dita] Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 17 Sept 2013 uploaded


Nancy, you might want to remove me from the Regrets list (lingering from the previous week), since I was present.

Best,
Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Co-chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

On 9/21/2013 3:29 AM, Nancy Harrison wrote:
Submitter's message
Action Items:
1. Eliot will look up the publishing website he used for publishing his book, as a resource for publishing the 1.3 spec.
2. Stan will set up webex at convenient time for discussion of best practices for Stage 3 proposals.

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 17 September 2013
Recorded by N. Harrison

regrets: Kris Eberlein, Adrian Warman


Standing Business
=================
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00042.html (16 September, Nancy Harrison)
Proposed by Don, seconded by Stan, approved by TC


Subcommittee Reports
none (Semiconductor SC October)

Announcements:
none


Business
========
1. DITA 1.3 progress
Progress: 26 Aug - 1 September https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00005.html (Eberlein, 3 September)
Update on current deadlines: http://chris.nitchie.com/trellotrack/#511a73d76ee890a51c0007ed
Trello Board: https://trello.com/b/gPKH0OcF
Kris; nothing much to report, will report next week, since the TC will be voting on proposals today


2. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 3: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage3

Stage 3 review process: Responsibilities of proposal owner and reviewers
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00126.html (Eberlein, 25 June)

Ready for discussion:

Review:

Ready for vote: Voting options are "Yes," "No," and "Abstain"

Proposal 13111: MathML and Equations, Stage 3 Review
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00015.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00016.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00017.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00019.html (plugin)
Eliot moved, seconded by Dick, unanimously approved by TC

Yes votes: Anderson, Bissantz, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Kimber, Myers, Nitchie

Proposal 13105: Data in List, Stage 3 (Eliot)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00025.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00026.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00027.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00028.html (comment by Eliot, 10 Sept)
Eliot moved, seconded by Robert, unanimously approved by TC

Yes votes: Anderson, Bissantz, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Kimber, Myers, Nitchie

Proposal 13092: Allow ph in indexterm (with updated example from last week) (Eliot)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00031.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00032.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00033.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00034.html (10 Sept, comment by Eliot)
Eliot moved, seconded by Stan, unanimously approved by TC

Yes votes: Anderson, Bissantz, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Kimber, Myers, Nitchie

Ready for Discussion

Proposal 13089, Stage 3, Add learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap (Mark Meyers)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00037.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00038.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00039.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00040.html (plugin, DITA-OT (non-normative), 13 Sept)
Mark gave the overview; the proposal addresses a need for the L & T specialization to support a standardized approach enabling storage of learning objects and learning groups as separate files on a file system or repository. Currently, it only supports the storage of the components within a learning object (such as a learningOverview or learningContent) as separate files. It does this by adding 2 new specialized elements to L&T, 'learningGroupMapRef' and 'learningGroupMap.' The proposal's gone through Stage 1 and 2; Eliot and Scott suggested some small changes which were incorporated into the design. There's now a pluging and updated docs as well.
Mark; we actually use this method at SAP
[no one brought up any items for discussion]
Resolution; vote next week


3. NEW ITEM - discussion of general (i.e. not related to a single specific proposal) 1.3 planning items, including
- working out how to generate contains/contained by tables
- deciding on packaging; what proposal item artifacts go in which packages?
- generating ditaot plugins for building the arch. spec
- Eliot; the contains/contained by problem may be easier once we have RNG rather than just DTDs to work from. I've been working on that, and I'm close to having a transform that will create correct DTDs and shell files from RNG source. I'm also working out what is needed for the levek of the spec itself. Of my proposal work, I've only got RNG and x-deliverable linking to do, and now I'm focusing on RNG as more critical.
- Kris; that would help us a lot
- Don; so will we be generating the spec from RNG?
- Kris; no, we're not generating the spec from RNG, just the DTD and XSD modules of the release; at least, I thought that's what we were voting on by approving Eliot's RNG proposal.
- Robert; the problem was that we didn't want another separate version besides DTD and XSD, but once the DTD and XSD sources can be reliably generated, it (RNG) will become the normative version.
- Nancy; we'll need to record and vote on that
- Kris; we need to talk about the review process for 1.3; the process for 1.2 was sooooo painful; Robert & I are hoping for something better, but I have no ideas offhand. If there are useful vendor-supplied or free tools o help it would be good for the release.
- [Eliot noted that he'd used a free website-based tool - name started with an 'A' - for his book; offered to find out the name and pass it on.]
- Kris; our current agreement with Chet Ensign of OASIS is that if OASIS tools don't meet out needs, we can go outside, as long as we can archive the review comments in KAVI.
- Don; will the 1.3 version of spec be 1.3 conformant rather than 1.2?
- Kris; we certainly have to do that.
- Don; what stress does that put on the build tools?
- Kris; that could be a criteria for a review tool; how easy it is for the tool to update the standard.
Action Item: Eliot will look up the publishing website he used for publishing his book, as a resource for publishing the 1.3 spec.
Resolution; to be continued next week

4. NEW ITEM - Stan had a request from the TechComm SC; some folks would like an opportunity to discuss best practices for stage 3 proposals, for someone who's just getting started with stage 3 proposals.
- Kris suggested that she, Robert, and Eliot do a phone call? Stan will work with them and the SC to set up a webex sometime next week; the SC has some channels it can use.
Action Item: Stan will set up webex at convenient time for discussion of best practices for Stage 3 proposals.
Resolution; Stan will set up a webex

5. Closing:
Kris asked if anyone had thoughts about any other things we need to do to get 1.3 out the door. She wants to focus on this next week.
- Don; what are our dates?
- Robert; Dec. 1 for all proposals complete and voted on - drop dead date.
- Kris; next week we can go through all the OASIS process 'hoops' and the timeline associated with them.
- Don; one hoop is getting implementors
- Kris; it's hard to get implementation statements until everything is available.
Resolution; to be continued next week


meeting closed at 11:45

-- Nancy Harrison
Document Name: DITA TC Meeting Minutes 17 Sept 2013

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Submitter: Nancy Harrison
Group: OASIS Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) TC
Folder: Meeting Notes
Date submitted: 2013-09-21 00:29:46




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