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Subject: Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 12 Nov 2013 uploaded


Submitter's message
Action Items:
- Kris to ping Amber and JohnH on 13106 (L&T Q&A proposal)
- David will update 13071 and post it in time for discussion next week
- Robert will talk to Michael about status of 13121
- Eliot will do final updates on 13104 (SVG) and post for discussion next week
- Eliot (or Chris) will update 13035 (XMLdomain) and post for continued discussion

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 12 November 2013
Recorded by N. Harrison

regrets: Stan Doherty, Scott Hudson, Tom Magliery


Standing Business
=================
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00022.html (12 November, Don Day)
Proposed by Kris, seconded by Joann, approved by TC


Subcommittee Reports
none (TechComm SC 3 Dec.)

Announcements:
None


Business
========
1. Regrets for 19 November (DITA Europe)
Dick Hamilton
Eliot Kimber
Tom Magliery
Chris Nitchie


2. DITA 1.3 progress
Kris gave overview; 3 proposals have entered review phase, 2 are in discussion today

Proposals in progress:
13071 - already reviewed, just needs some corrections; David hopes to have it updated this week and in discussion for next week
13106 - Kris will ping Amber and JohnH
13112 - this is Eliot's working on this; his current highest priority
Kris suggested the possibility of Eliot dropping 13120 (vocabulary for publishing process details) & 13041 (key-based, cross-deliverable xrefs) from 1.3 as a way to get his other proposals in on time.
Eliot was willing to consider that possibility, but suggested putting off any decision on it to next week.

Proposals in review:
62, 13059, 13059a; these are waiting for Eliot's review
For 13059, David volunteered to replace Eliot as reviewer, he will review this week; Kris will help him get the newest version.
13056; has been reviewed by Deb - while there are 4 people listed as reviewers, Kris suggested that once a proposal has received 2 reviews, it can be moved on for discussion.
Kris asked Robert to prod MichaelP on 13121; it's really important since it's prereq for 13097.


3. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 3

Ready for vote: Voting options are "Yes," "No," and "Abstain"

Proposal 13004: Scoped keys (Nitchie)
Moved by Chris, 2nded by David, approved unanimously by TC
Yes votes: Anderson, Bissantz, Day, Eberlein, Hackos, Hamilton, Harrison, Helfinstine, Kimber, Myers, Nitchie


Ready for discussion:
Proposal 13119: SVG Domain (Kimber; Reviewers: Nancy Harrison, Deb Bissantz)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201310/msg00098.html (DITA, uploaded 18 October 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201310/msg00099.html (HTML, uploaded 18 October 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201310/msg00100.html (PDF, uploaded 18 October 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00011.html (plugin, updated 2 November 2013)
Kris; This really needs to be updated with all the spec changes that need to be made.
Resolution; Eliot will do final updates; TC will discuss next week.

Proposal 13103: Print attribute replacement (Kimber; Reviewers: Nancy Harrison, Deb Bissantz)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00051.html (PDF, uploaded 11 November 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00046.html (HTML, updated 10 November 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00045.html (DITA, updated 10 November 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00048.html (plugins, updated 10 November 2013)
Eliot summarized changes to proposal; he's added deprecation language, and made the subjectScheme for the deliveryTarget values into an example in the subjectScheme topic, rather than a separate appendix.
Resolution; vote on this proposal next week

Proposal 13035: XML mention domain (Kimber; Reviewers: Tom Magliery, David Helfinstine)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00009.html (DITA, uploaded 1 November 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201311/msg00008.html (PDF, uploaded 1 November 2013)
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/51264/proposal-13035-xmldomain-stage-3.html (HTML, uploaded 1 November 2013)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201310/msg00097.html (plug-in, uploaded 18 October 2013)
Eliot gave an overview; this is a set of 12 keyword-based elements for identifying XML syntax.
There was considerable discussion, based on the perspective, shared by Chris, Kris, Don, and Robert, that the proposed domain contained too many elements; they felt that most pople who wanted to use such a domain would want either a single 'xmlmarkup' element, or at most, 'xmlelement', 'xmlattribute', and and 'xmlmarkup' element that could be further specialized into less frequently needed items. The concern was that this would feed into the 'DITA complexity' perception.
Eliot felt that the proposal needed to be able to be used easily for documenters of XML-based specifications, themselves, including ours.
There was also concern for the effort it would take to redo the proposal, given how much work Eliot has on his plate.
Chris offered to either help with, or even to take over the proposal, if that would help to move it along.
Resolution; Eliot, with Chris' help as needed, will rewrite the proposal to consist of a 'markup' specialization, and an 'xmldomain' specialization, based on the 'markup' specialization, containing a smaller number of XML elements. For anyone who needs to include more specific XML elements; they can base their own extra specialization on the markup one.


4. DITA 1.3 infrastructure
no action


Announcements;
Eliot noted that he has Robert's comments for 13104; he will move that on Trello to discussion for next week.


closed at 11:59




-- Nancy Harrison
Document Name: DITA TC Meeting Minutes 12 Nov 2013

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Submitter: Nancy Harrison
Group: OASIS Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) TC
Folder: Meeting Notes
Date submitted: 2013-11-15 12:58:00



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