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Subject: Conref Vs. Transclusion and Using Non-DITA Data As DITA


In thinking through my position on the inclusion proposal I think it comes down to the need to make the following distinctions for things used by reference:

1. Things used by reference (conref or topicref) that are normal DITA markup, either because they were originally authored that way or because they are served as DITA markup by the URI resolver that resolves the URI for the reference. This is what I think of as "using conref for dynamic data" but is really just "when a conref or topicref with format of "dita" or "ditamap" specifies a URI, what comes back *must* be normal DITA markup." How that DITA markup came to be created is immaterial. The point is that the DITA processor asks for a URI to be resolved in a context that requires DITA markup to be the result and it gets DITA markup. That's all it needs to know.

2. Things used by reference that are in a context where literal text is expected, e.g., within <lines> or a specialization thereof. This is the coderef case and @parse of "text" in Chris' proposal.

3. Things used by reference that are within a <foreign> context where non-DITA XML markup is expected. This is the mathml and svgref case and @parse of "xml" in Chris' proposal.

4. Things used by reference that are in a normal DITA context but are not themselves text, DITA markup, or foreign markup. This is <image> and <object> in DITA 1.x.

It is case (4) that I think Chris was concerned about and about which I have concerns in terms of what we can or can't standardize.

Chris has tried to generalize inclusion generally to handle cases (2) and (3), which I agree is appropriate to do.

That then leaves case (4). I think this is an important case and we need to think it through a bit more deeply.

The ability to do case (1) is inherent in the DITA design because all references in DITA are via URI and the DITA standard does not (and cannot or should not) limit the nature of the URIs you use. That means you're free to use any URI you like as long as there's a resolver for it, which is an implementation detail. There's no need for the DITA standard to try to codify any particular way of binding to dynamically-constructed data because there are simply too many ways you might usefully do it.

Because case (1) is inherent in the DITA design I would be concerned about anything in the <include> design that appeared to provide another way to do conref or topicrefs to dynamically-constructed normal DITA markup.

Like case (1), cases (2) and (3) can be defined entirely in terms of the effective result: it is identical to having included the referenced content directly in the referencing topic's source. The difference between this and conref is *when* a DITA processor is obligated to do the referencing: unlike conref, there can't be any key- or ID-related processing complexity, so the resolution can be done at any time in the processing flow--the result must always be the same. Resolution could be done as part of some preprocessing step or it could be done during final-form processing, it shouldn't matter. 

However, both Chris and Robert correctly pointed out that there could be a need for additional *parameters* to guide the resolution processing. Robert said that OT has already extended coderef in several useful ways.

By the same token, a URI-based dynamic conref or topicref mechanism might also need parameters. While parameters can always be embedded directly in URIs one way or another, it might be (and probably usually is) more convenient to be able to specify parameters separate from the URI itself.

Finally, considering case (4), non-XML, non-DITA, non-text content used in more or less any context, there are two current instances: <image> and <object>. Of these, one provides no way to specify parameters outside the URI (<image>) and one includes parameters (<object>).

This analysis leads me to ask two questions in the context of the <include> proposal:

1. Should <include> also be generalizing case (4)? 
2. Should we be adding a general "parameters that apply to URI resolution" mechanism to DITA 2.x (separate from but used by the <include> mechanism)?

If the answer to question (1) is "yes" I think it might mesh well with my to-be-delivered proposal for reworking <image>. In TC discussion we already established the value of having an element that does just the reference to the image resource without having any nested content (<alt>). Such an element would be structurally identical to and semantically close to Chris' <include> element if <include> allowed a third value for @parse that meant "not text and not foreign XML" ("object", perhaps?).

I think the answer to question (2) is "yes", especially if the answer to question (1) is "yes".

A general parameters-for-uri-resolution mechanism would be valuable in any context where the URI to be resolved is not a simple direct reference to a static content. This would include both custom URIs used in case (1) as well as all the references used for cases (2), (3), and (4).

It would also make it clear that specifying parameters to URI resolution is not limited to just the <include> cases but can also apply to conref and topicref as well, using a single parameter specification mechanism. That would help keep the purpose of <include> vs conref vs topicref clear and avoid having <include> become, or try to become, an alternative way to do dynamic conref.

That would provide a general mechanism for *specifying* parameters without the DITA standard having to say anything about what those parameters might be.

I'm thinking of something like a specialization of <data> that means "these are parameters to the URI specified by the containing element". It wouldn't need to be much more specific than that--the main point is to simply signal unambiguously "URI resolution parameters go here". The details would still be processor specific, modulo any obviously general parameters we might identify (for example, parameters related to authentication or MIME types). To enable the easy case we might also add a new specialization base attribute, e.g. "@parameters", that would allow attribute-only parameter specification as well. Or maybe a new base attribute is all we would need.

I think a general parameter mechanism is consistent with what Chris is trying to do with allowing additional parse values but without having 
it be limited to just the <include> use case and being general enough to satisfy all possible use cases for parameter specification (which attributes alone cannot do).

Cheers,

E.


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Eliot Kimber
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