RE: [docbook-apps] Displaying images in XMetal

["Paul Prescod" <paul.prescod@blastradius.com>]

Jana, if you evaluating XMetaL's ability to work with Docbook-variants,
then I would suggest you look at two pre-existing customizations. The
Journalist customization that comes with it is fairly Docbook-like. This
customization is actually a pure subset of Docbook:

http://www.xmetal.com/en_us/conference/index.x

I will talk to our marketing folks about whether we can share the
underlying project. This may take a bit of time due to legal headaches.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jana Volencova [mailto:j.volencova@cz.gmc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:35 AM
To: David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
Cc: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org; Jerry Silver; Jirka Kosek
Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Displaying images in XMetal

I see! It looks like I am not editing the right file. My docbookx.ctm
contains only element properties like this one:
   <ElementProperties>
      <Name ns="">imagedata</Name>
      <PrettyPrintOptions></PrettyPrintOptions>
      <IndentContent/>
      <NewLineBeforeEndTag/>
      <NewLineBeforeStartTag/>
    </ElementProperties>
And I might have not started the proper project for XMetal customization
in XMetal Developer. But if there is a way to do it manually, I'll be
happy to skip the XMetal Developer. The question is now what the right
file is...

We are using mainly GIFs, so there should not a problem with support. 

And speaking about XML editors, I spent a lot of time trying to find a
suitable one but nothing seems ideal. That could be a topic for a new
thread but at the moment I am just happy with what I have and
concentrate on writing again.

Thanks for your help!
Jana 


-----Original Message-----
From: David Cramer (Tech Pubs) [mailto:dcramer@motive.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:03 PM
To: Jirka Kosek; Jana Volencova
Cc: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org; Jerry Silver
Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Displaying images in XMetal

For what it's worth, I have images displaying in normal and tags on view
in xmetal 4.x. Looking in my .ctm, I have this, which I think is what
does the work:

...
  </Templates>
  <Images>
    <Image>
      <Name ns="">imagedata</Name>
      <Source-Attribute>fileref</Source-Attribute>
    </Image>
  </Images>
  <ChangeLists>
...

Btw., if your images are .eps, they won't appear (they used to in 2.x,
but they dropped support for .eps at some point). In our system, if you
flag an image as "online" then it changes the extension to .eps when you
go to a print output. Otherwise, it uses the value of fileref as is for
both print and online outputs.

I believe that this stuff comes from "Treat As->Treat AS Type"..."Image
Element" in the properties pane of XMetaL developer. I don't see
anything about encosding, output, schemas, and stylesheet in my XMetaL
developer in the designer view of the .ctm, so I think you must be in
the wrong place :-)
 XMetaL developer is a convenience thing...you could also do all that
customization manually by editing the .ctm, .css, and .mcr files. 

Once you get it all tricked out, XMetaL provides a pretty intuitive
wysiwyg environment for docbook. Unfortunately, there are a lot of
macros you need to write. The Journalist DTD is a sample that they
provide that shows some of the things it can do. It's DocBook-like and
can get you started. 

In my opinion, Blast Radius should provide a good starting point for
DocBook out of the box like you find in Oxygen, XMLMind, Serna, etc. 

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jirka Kosek [mailto:jirka@kosek.cz]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:07 AM
> To: Jana Volencova
> Cc: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Displaying images in XMetal
> 
> Jana Volencova wrote:
> 
> > I have the Properties panel displayed but for e.g. imagedata I can
> > set there only Encoding, Output, Schemas and Stylesheet. There is
> > also Property Pages icon in this panel but it is not active. Could
> > the reason be that I am using only demo version of XMetal Developer
> > (even though they claim it's fully functional)? Or could the trouble
> > be connected somehow to Visual Studio?
> 
> Are you sure that you have correctly installed XM Developer inside
> VS.NET? There should be new type of project available for creating XM
> customization. You should start with this project, import DocBook DTD
> and then customize CTM and CSS files as necessary.
> 
> > soon... But this is our first project and it is still not clear if
> > this is the way we want to go with all our documentation.
> 
> Then hire consultant who will help you with this decision ;-D
> 
> 



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