OASIS Mailing List ArchivesView the OASIS mailing list archive below
or browse/search using MarkMail.

 


Help: OASIS Mailing Lists Help | MarkMail Help

docbook-apps message

[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]


Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] oXygen 9 beta with WYSIWYG-like editing supportfor DocBook


Hi,

This is a very interesting topic (from time to time this kind of debate is
refreshing from the pure technicalities ;-).

Javier, I can see your point. From a strict point of view you are right, but
we shouldn't forget "end-users".

I "enjoy" a long experience trying to introduce XML content management into
IT projects. One of the most difficult hurdle to tackle is "end-users": the
people typing structured content.

You should make thing as easy and smooth as possible... if you don't like to
see them work in "Word" (Side note: from time to time you can read, at the
FrameMaker forum, people asking "what's the advantage of using structured
document". And so they are FrameMaker users!!!).

The approach we can see in Oxygen 9 maybe is not the most DocBook "pure"
one, but it is quite convenient for WYSIWYG editing. Giving the fact that
Oxygen is mainly a tool for developers, I think both "approaches" should be
present, but I would appreciate if my tool of choice could make my live
easier. For example, if only the editor could insert the wrapping CDATA
section code automatically when I choose <programlisting> would be a nice
feature. Afterwards, I may or may not be aware of the "internals" depending
on my position in the production chain.

Just my two cents!!

Regards,

Pedro Pastor


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Javi [mailto:spanish@inicia.es] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 03 de octubre de 2007 9:05
CC: DocBook Apps Mailing List
Asunto: Re: [docbook-apps] oXygen 9 beta with WYSIWYG-like editing
supportfor DocBook

Michael(tm) Smith wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I don't see any real-world difference between
> "emphasis" and italics, nor "strong emphasis" and bold. In
> practice, they amount to the same thing, and pretending that
> they're not doesn't really help anybody. But what might help a
>   
Come on, Michael. How can you say this? italics and bold are two 
possible renderings for some internal meaning. In markup you should mark 
your intended meaning, and then later you will decide the better way to 
render this meaning. To say that italics=emphasis is wrong. Because 
italics=(emphasis,foreign word,quotation,etc.) There are too few 
rendering options for a huge number of intended meanings. If we end up 
with only italics and bold, we can only distinguish two. Come on, we are 
in structural markup. Bold and italics will NEVER be structural.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org
For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-help@lists.oasis-open.org

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 02/10/2007
18:43
 

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 02/10/2007
18:43
 



[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]