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Subject: Re: [docbook] Correct markup for "et al" in biblioref
Markus, On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 23:18 +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Hi, > > two thoughts: > > 1) your question suggests that you're about to confuse markup with > presentation. > That's exactly my concern; the markup I included in my email abuses the DocBook personname tag because "et al" is not a person's name. It's a pretty mild abuse (I suppose et al does represent several people who have names:), but I'm hoping someone has run into this and has a good clean suggestion. > > If you do not want the author list to appear in full in > your bibliography listing, you may be better off tweaking the > stylesheets rather than massaging the data. > There is code in the standard stylesheets that will handle the "et al" in long lists (it's part of the ISO690 support). If I just put the 17 names in and use that code, I would get both the visual effect and correct markup. But, I would like to be able to indicate "et al" explicitly for those cases where I don't have all the names (or the patience to code all of the names:). > > Of course there are > cases where you don't have the full author list in the first place. In > that case your markup may be as good as it gets. > That could be, but I hope someone on the list will have a suggestion that will work better than what I have so far. > > 2) author lists have an implicit logic, at least in science. The first > author (in the order listed on the publication) is usually the one who > has contributed most (blood and sweat), whereas the last one is > usually the one who was responsible, who tutored the first author, or > who happened to be the department head. Picking the first one sorted > alphabetically may break these implicit rules. > Good point; I actually chose the first name on the list, which happened to be sorted alphabetically. But you're right, I should really pick whichever one was first in the source, regardless. Thanks for the suggestions. Dick Hamilton http://rlhamilton.net
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