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Subject: RE: [docbook] Inline book reference info


Jennifer,

I was not 100% sure whether you want to have an element
around everything or just around the publishing information
after the citetitle.

If it's the former, you can put a blockquote inside a
para, which would let you have a surrounding para, which
could have a role attribute you could use to generate the
HTML class atribute you need..

If it's the latter, there are a couple of ways you can go.
First of all, you can put the attribution element directly
inside the blockquote, which is preferable to putting a para
with a citetitle inside.

Then, you might find elements inside attribution that would
do what you need. If not, you can always put text inside a
phrase element and give the phrase a role attribute you can
use to generate the HTML class attribute you need.

Hope that helps.
Dick Hamilton
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Moore [mailto:jennifer@uncharted-worlds.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:12 PM
> To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [docbook] Inline book reference info
> 
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I have this:
> 
> <para>
>    John Holt said:
> </para>
> 
> <blockquote>
>    <para>
>      "Of course, a child may not know what he may need to know in ten 
> years (who does?), but he knows, and much better than anyone 
> else, what 
> he wants and needs to know right now, what his mind is ready 
> and hungry 
> for.  If we help him, or just allow him, to learn that, he 
> will remember 
> it, use it, build on it."
>    </para>
>    <para>
>      - <citetitle pubwork="book">Teach Your Own: a hopeful path for 
> education</citetitle> (Brightlingsea: Lighthouse Books, 1981, p. 60)
>    </para>
> </blockquote>
> 
> Technically I suspect it's a bit wrong really to have the attribution 
> inside the blockquote, but I'm happy with it as a separate 
> paragraph in 
> the same colours as the blockquote.  (and I'm the only one who's ever 
> likely to see this markup, so while I personally would like 
> it to make 
> sense, it's not going to break anything to have it 
> technically wrong :-) )
> 
> What I'm not happy with yet is the default font for the publisher, 
> publishing year and page number.  Is there a wrapper which would fit 
> neatly around all of those and produce an HTML class tag by which I 
> could address it from a CSS stylesheet?  because I'd like them - 
> including the brackets - to come out a bit smaller than the 
> rest of it.
> 
> I've looked briefly through lots of things like biblioref and 
> reference 
> and bibliosource.  But they all either seem to be for completely 
> different things or else they say "Processing expectations:  
> Suppressed. 
> Many of the elements in this wrapper may be used in presentation, but 
> they are not generally printed as part of the formatting of 
> the wrapper. 
> It merely serves to identify where they occur."
> 
> So not sure if there is a thing and I'm missing it through 
> unfamiliarity, or if there just isn't one.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any clues!
> 
> Jennifer
> 
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