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Subject: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 20 July 2011
DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 20 July 2011 ============================================================= The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 20 July 2011 at 01:00p EDT for 60 minutes. Agenda 1. Roll call Present: Dick Hamilton, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland Bob Stayton, Norm Walsh Regrets: Paul Grosso, Gershon Joseph 2. Accepted the minutes [1] of the previous meeting. 3. Next meeting: 17 August 2011 OK. 4. Review of the agenda. No changes. 5. Review of open action items a. Bob to update his XSL stylesheet for building a DocBook document from an assembly. CONTINUE b. Jirka will write up a comparison of the two transclusion approaches (empty element with @ref attribute or dedicated ref element). COMPLETED c. Norm to produce a Publisher's schema based on DocBook 5.0 instead of 5.1. COMPLETED d. Norm to add links to Publisher's schema on docbook.org. COMPLETED e. Bob to add contributed Publisher's stylesheets to the XSL distribution. CONTINUE f. Norm to fix Publishers doc and publish on docbook.org. COMPLETED g. Norm to redo Simplified DocBook with 5.0 as the base. COMPLETED h. Norm to post Simplfied DocBook 5.0 to docbook.org. CONTINUE i. Norm to post DocBook 5.1 beta with latest assembly stuff to docbook.org. COMPLETED j. Nancy to get an explanation of terms in the DITA paper on transclusions and conditional text. COMPLETED k. Gerson to propose content models for result element(s) (RFE 3163121). CONTINUE 6. DocBook assembly. Bob raised RFE 3368297 to allow hierarchical elements to be empty except for title. The expectation is that such empty elements would be populated during the assembly process. Basically the content models would change from using + to using * for block and sections. Since this loosens the content models, the change would be backwards compatible. Proposal to accept 3368297 was approved. The TC considers the design of assembly to be complete, and now we need experience. Bob will finish up the assembly stylesheet shortly and make it available. 7. Transclusion in DocBook. Jirka summarized his message [2] comparing an element approach versus an attribute approach to transclusions as described in his proposal[3]. Regarding the attribute mechanism, Jirka pointed out that @copy does id fixup, but @ref does not. Bob raised the distinction between predefined reusable content declared inside a definitions element versus an inclusion of an arbitrary external element. Larry pointed out a need in either mechanism for transcluding the content only of the referenced element. That would be how any reference to a def element would work, since def is not to appear in the document flow. Larry expressed a strong preference for a mechanism that would replace entities, which the definitions element provides. But a def could be referenced either by a ref element or by a @ref attribute, *if* there is an implied rule that any reference to a def element is always content only. Another option is to add a @contentonly attribute, similar to @copy, except it only transcludes the content of the referenced element into the current element. Bob pointed out that the ref element might be more flexible when referencing a def that had a sequence of siblings. A ref element is always replaced. Norm asked some straw poll questions: a. Does anyone want to not pursue transclusions? No one responded. b. Does anyone strongly favor ref element? Bob responded. c. Does anyone favor attribute approach? Nancy responded. ACTION: Bob and Nancy to initiate a discussion on the mailing list to further develop the issues between the two approaches. 8. Review of Requests for Enhancement To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line): http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&; group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX RFEs to revisit for 6.0 1907003 biblioid content model too broad RFEs under discussion 1679665 Add better support for modular documentation 2820190 add a topic element 2820947 Ability to transclude text 3035565 Allow sections at any level 3107140 aconym expansion inline 3156768 <result> tag 3368297 allow empty hierarchical elements Approved. ----- [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/201106/msg00018.html [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/201107/msg00003.html [3] http://docbook.org/docs/transclusion/2011-04-20/ Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises bobs@sagehill.net
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