Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5

[Joshua Wulf <jwulf@redhat.com>]

Thanks Bob, I opened one: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3608790&group_id=21935&atid=384107

cheers,
- Josh

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net>
> To: "Joshua Wulf" <jwulf@redhat.com>, "Jirka Kosek" <jirka@kosek.cz>
> Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:17:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5
> 
> Hi Joshua,
> If you want this to be considered by the DocBook Technical Committee,
> please
> file a RFE on the DocBook SourceForge site:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=21935&atid=384107
> 
> The Technical Committee will then take it up at its next meeting.
> 
> Bob Stayton
> Sagehill Enterprises
> bobs@sagehill.net
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joshua Wulf" <jwulf@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:52 PM
> To: "Jirka Kosek" <jirka@kosek.cz>
> Cc: <docbook@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Subject: Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5
> 
> > Revisting this ~a year later...
> >
> > It looks like schema.org is converging on RDFa Lite:
> >
> > http://blog.schema.org/2011/11/using-rdfa-11-lite-with-schemaorg.html
> > http://blog.schema.org/2012/06/semtech-rdfa-microdata-and-more.html
> >
> > Manu Sporny makes a solid case that RDFa Lite is the one to go
> > with:
> > http://manu.sporny.org/2012/mythical-differences/
> >
> > Schema.org has a proposed vocabulary for technical documentation
> > too:
> > http://blog.schema.org/2012/06/newvocabularies-for-technical.html
> >
> > With Docbook 5 and HTML 5, what's the situation with putting
> > schema.org
> > markup into Docbook books (whether through microdata or RDFa Lite)
> > today?
> >
> > Norm put this customization together:
> > https://gist.github.com/docbook/2768701
> >
> > So to get that to work, I'd need to modify my xsl to pipe it
> > through to
> > the html, right?
> >
> > If I do that, what are the chances of it being accepted into a
> > future
> > release?
> >
> > - Josh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jirka Kosek" <jirka@kosek.cz>
> >> To: "Joshua Wulf" <jwulf@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:12:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5
> >>
> >> On 13.12.2011 3:28, Joshua Wulf wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm not sure if I have it right, but it seems that Docbook 5
> >> > with
> >> > its
> >> > xml schema base supports adding RDFa data to the xml with no
> >> > problems.
> >> > What I'd like is to have that RDFa data flow through to the
> >> > built
> >> > html
> >> > output.
> >>
> >> Hi Joshua,
> >>
> >> could you elaborate more on you requirements. What's usecase for
> >> having
> >> RDFa in DocBook?
> >>
> >> > I've opened the RFE against the XSL stylesheets rather than
> >> > against
> >> > the
> >> > DTD/schema because (I think) that's the only place that changes
> >> > would
> >> > need to be made. Have I opened it in the right place?
> >>
> >> Probably no. If we decide that adding RDFa into DocBook is good
> >> idea,
> >> schema has to be modified first. If you look at
> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/ you will see that special
> >> atttributes
> >> like property, rel, about, resource, datatype are needed to convey
> >> RDFa.
> >> If you want to use RDFa in DocBook similar attributes has to be
> >> added
> >> into DocBook.
> >>
> >> Once this is done, appropriate change in stylesheets has to be
> >> done
> >> as
> >> well to pipe these metadata to XHTML output.
> >>
> >> But it would be really interesting to know what problem are you
> >> trying
> >> to solve. Honestly, future for RDFa doesn't look very bright IMHO.
> >> Currently it can be used only in XHTML, not in HTML. It seems that
> >> approach chosen by microdata/schema.org has more chances on the
> >> market.
> >> But we will see.
> >>
> >> Jirka
> >>
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