Re: Re: [dss-x] ETSI / OASIS testbed possibilities for DSS

[kuehne@trustable.de]

Hi Juan Carlos,

seems this one of the rare things we disagree ;-)

All of the TC members put so much time and effort into th spec, it doesn't make sense to me to introduce a obstacle at the very end of the way to acceptance.
 
To me an automatic testbed has the same value as the Wiki : It's an server installation, once setup, it runs without to  much human effort. The work is done with the definition of test cases. 

Another issue it is to have a meeting to do compatibility tests. This deserves a fee for the infrastructure and other stuff.

Greetings

Andreas

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Betreff: Re: [dss-x] ETSI / OASIS testbed possibilities for DSS
Gesendet: Mi, 13. Jan 2010
Von: Juan Carlos Cruellas<cruellas@ac.upc.edu>

> Hi Andreas,
> 
> I agree in the comment that OASIS standards are open and free and think 
> that this is key for their success.
> 
> But in my opinion, offering a good testbed would be an added value to 
> not only  OASIS members but also non members, so my view is that 
> establishing a certain (and reasonable) fee for getting these services 
> would be reasonable; this could also help to have on board those 
> organizations that are actually interested in the specifications....
> 
> I take your point of the issue of time window for performing the 
> tests....I guess that we could try to explore the possibility of 
> offering a continuous minimum level of service in terms of allowing 
> access to the services.....
> 
> Juan Carlos.
> kuehne@trustable.de escribió:
> > Hi Jamie,
> > 
> > thanks for negotiating the possibilities to collaborate with ETSI
> regarding tests.
> > 
> > But for me the small time frame and the uasge fee are a complete no-go for
> such a testbed. 
> > OASIS standards got such a good reputation and a widespread acceptance
> that it doesn't deserve a limited timeframe for a compliance verification.
> Many intersted parties will not be able to meet the timeframe, will simply
> be to late with their implementation or don't have the funding for the test
> fee. 
> > 
> > I will strongly recommend a test setup that will be available for a long
> time and is free for users. Like the OASIS standars are !
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > Andreas
> > 
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> > Betreff: [dss-x] ETSI / OASIS testbed possibilities for DSS
> > Gesendet: Mo, 07. Dez 2009
> > Von: James Bryce Clark<jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >> Several of your members and OASIS staff have discussed, with ETSI, a
> >> possible cooperative effort using ETSI's "PlugTests" testbed
> >> arrangement to provide conformance and/or interoperability testing for
> >> features of the DSS spec.
> >>
> >> I will join your meeting this morning, to further explore the
> >> feaiblity of a 2-week remote test arrangement, hosted by ETSI with a
> >> typical per-user charge of EUR300-0400, where the cases and payload
> >> materials would be supplied by member experts from the TC.
> >>
> >> Kind regards   Jamie
> >>
> >> ~ James Bryce Clark
> >> ~ General Counsel, OASIS
> >> ~ http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#clark
> >>
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