Raw Minutes Chat for meeting #209 on 2018-05-14

["Mr. Stefan Hagen" <stefan@hagen.link>]

[17:50] Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
DSS-X Conference Call #209 (Conference Call)
Monday, 14 May 2018, 04:00pm to 05:00pm UTC

Draft Agenda:
1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen)

2. Minutes taker
All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area.

3. Roll call

4. Approval of the agenda

5. Approval of minutes from previous calls
5.1 Minutes from call #208 on 2018-04-30:
URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/63008/chat_trace_dss-20180430-number-208_published-in-kavi.txt

6. Roadmap for 2018
6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage
6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage
6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages
6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials

7. Core 2.0 issues discussion
7.1 Maintenance tasks

7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation

7.3 Editorial topics

7.4 Possible motion to progress core to CSD01 and request public review

8. Profiles

9. Next meeting
Suggested to meet again on 2018-MAY-28  (usual bi-weekly schedule)

10. AOB
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen)

2. Minutes taker
All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area.

3. Roll call
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: EJvn; AK, SH => Quorate
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 4. Approval of the agenda
[18:01] Stefan Hagen: AK send a list with questions to the mailinglist will be addressed in 7.3 Editorial topics
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: Agenda approved as amended
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: 5. Approval of minutes from previous calls
5.1 Minutes from call #208 on 2018-04-30:
URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/63008/chat_trace_dss-20180430-number-208_published-in-kavi.txt
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: Minutes approved unchanged as published
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: 6. Roadmap for 2018
6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage
6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage
6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages
6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: No changes
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: 7. Core 2.0 issues discussion
7.1 Maintenance tasks
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: None
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: 7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: 7.3 Editorial topics
[18:04] Stefan Hagen: AK received feedback on many minor points he could address easily as editorial changes
[18:06] Stefan Hagen: AK also mentions, that ETSI now seems to have changed AugmentedSignature (instead of UpdatedSignature) and Andreas thinks it should be considered an easy and welcome fx to the DSS core to follow here and get rid of the complex and unintuitive UpdatedSignature concept
[18:06] Stefan Hagen: All agree
[18:07] Stefan Hagen: AK: Another ETSI group came across our ServicePolicy document they introduced the term SignaturePolicy and suggest we could add it as addition policy - but Andreas thinks this is possibly a bloat of the profile that has an "overspecification" smell
[18:08] Stefan Hagen: EJvN: Is also wondering what could that mean and what could be specified from the client and independent from the service
[18:09] Stefan Hagen: EJvN: Suggests to ask for more details and esp. examples to help us decide - for now given the current level of detail all think this is not to be added
[18:09] Stefan Hagen: AK: will ask
[18:10] Stefan Hagen: AK: In addition SignatureActivationData has been asked for an additional content field from the same person - for now Andreas is undecided
[18:11] Stefan Hagen: Ernst Jan and Stefan think, the less structure and fileds the better (when passing through) so a hash should be nice in base64
[18:12] Stefan Hagen: EJvN: Also here suggests Andreas maybe asks the originator of the request for additional details
[18:14] Stefan Hagen: AK: Last topic from Hendrik asking for details on signature algorithm (RSA or ECC or ...) and he suggests to expand the SignatureAlgorithm element to cater for the maximum number of parameters needed for a specific algorithm
[18:16] Stefan Hagen: All are discussing. The members of the TC are not yet sure what is a good structuring (e.g.. prefixes etc.) many implementers seem currently to struggle with specific parameters in a generic manner (with the algorithm as a variable).
[18:18] Stefan Hagen: All perceive this as more like a too specific remote interface to OpenSSL full details but this is not our view on the DSS interface, which should not specify on such a fine grained level every possible API doing the actual signing.
[18:20] Stefan Hagen: 7.4 Possible motion to progress core to CSD01 and request public review
[18:20] Stefan Hagen: Skipped
[18:21] Stefan Hagen: 8. Profiles
[18:21] Stefan Hagen: EJvN: Status of review comments from him to Detlef is pending
[18:22] Stefan Hagen: AK: Did upload several versions of the ADES profile (now including the port for ASIC containers)
[18:22] Stefan Hagen: 9.. Next meeting
Suggested to meet again on 2018-MAY-28  (usual bi-weekly schedule)
[18:22] Stefan Hagen: All agree
[18:22] Stefan Hagen: 10. AOB
[18:23] Stefan Hagen: All are confident about the current change speed and stabilisation of COre
[18:26] Stefan Hagen: TAB will discuss the OASIS account at SwaggerHub suggestion from Andreas (and Ralf and Stefan) as seconded b Trey Darle in the next TAB meeting in two weeks approx.
[18:26] Stefan Hagen: Meeting adjourned