Re: [ebsoa] Process-Oriented Architectures (POA)

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Duane Nickull wrote:
> 
> The way I understood it is that the term "Process Oriented Architecture"
> refers to the business or other end users point of view whereas SOA is
> really a FSV term.  This aligns with the UMM and other higher level MDA
> approaches.
> 
> The ebXML TA and UN/CEFACT eBusiness Architecture both support
> processes.  The ability to support processes requires additional
> functionality in the transport layer where the rules of the process
> should be enforced.
> 
> Another term that has recently gathered momentum is "event driven
> architecture".   

Yes - Gartner has been heavy on this one.

> All SOA's are event driven by nature.  

Agree. Eric Newcomer made the same comment at a recent session here in
DC.

Joe

> We may still have to explain this.
> 
> Duane Nickull
> 
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> 
> >David RR Webber wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Joe,
> >>
> >>I humbly submit this is a redherring.
> >>
> >>Service Oriented IMHO already implies Process by extension  - since
> >>behind the delivery of any service there must be a process
> >>controlling and facilitating it.   Tha'ts why BPSS and BPEL are part
> >>of the SOA stack.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thanks David - but according to whom are they part of the SOA stack?
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >>We need another acronym like a hole in the head - let's leave that
> >>stuff to the professionals at Gartner to dream up, eh?  ; -)
> >>
> >>Cheers, DW.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> >>To: "ebSOA" <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >>Cc: "Monica J. Martin" <monica.martin@sun.com>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:30 AM
> >>Subject: [ebsoa] Process-Oriented Architectures (POA)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I know that our concentration is to be service-oriented architectures,
> >>>but at the same time I'm thinking about what will lie beyond (so that we
> >>>can best prepare). A term popped into my head on the way home yesterday
> >>>(the DC Beltway apparatentely inspires me): Process-Oriented
> >>>Architecture, or "POA".
> >>>
> >>>Has anyone heard this term used before? I Google'd it and found few
> >>>hits, all of which seemed to be individual (rather than corporate)
> >>>references.
> >>>
> >>>As you can tell from the term, just as SOAs enable (involve, pick your
> >>>favorite word here) the use of shared services, POAs will extend SOAs to
> >>>enable the use of shared Web Services-based processes that are based on
> >>>shared Web Services that are defined within SOAs, working in concert
> >>>with each other. So for a US federal application (my primary client),
> >>>this could mean a set of shared Web Services-based business processes
> >>>for federal agencies, in a flexible, agile, process environment.
> >>>
> >>>Does this concept resound with anyone?
> >>>--
> >>>Kind Regards,
> >>>Joseph Chiusano
> >>>Associate
> >>>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Senior Standards Strategist
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://www.adobe.com

-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton