Re: [ebsoa] SOA and Shared Semantics

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>]

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Duane

Chiusano Joseph wrote:

>Curiously enough, one of my Booz Allen colleagues was not able to access
>the EII workshop links below (he was redirected to some strange,
>unrelated site). Has anyone other than Ron (that did not participate in
>the workshop) been able to access the site? I wonder if it is accessible
>by only workshop participants. If possible, I would like to send the URL
>to someone here (not the documents).
>
>Or, my colleague may also have the Incredifind parasite - however, this
>is the only URL with which either of us have seen such an error.
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
>
>Duane Nickull wrote:
>  
>
>>Joseph:
>>
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>>Duane
>>
>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Ron,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your followup on this and the voice mail you left me. Here is
>>>the error message I get:
>>>
>>>http://www.incredifind.com/index.cfm?action=lookup&pc=msifh&Keywords=http://www.meiim.com/eii_events.htm
>>>
>>>Error is: "The Site you are looking for
>>>"http://www.meiim.com/eii_events.htm"; is not available."
>>>
>>>Any ideas as to why?
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>"Schuldt, Ron L" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>ebSOA Team,
>>>>
>>>>I don't seem to have a problem getting to the
>>>>http://www.meiim.com/eii_events.htm Web site - however, it is responding
>>>>very slowly.
>>>>
>>>>If others are experiencing the same problem as Joe, I could post the
>>>>documents on the ebSOA Web site.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:10 PM
>>>>To: ebSOA
>>>>Subject: Re: [ebsoa] SOA and Shared Semantics
>>>>
>>>>Ron,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the information below on the DLA EII workshop. I noted that
>>>>the links below are no longer resolveable, and a Google search did not
>>>>yield any results. Would you happen to know where else we might find
>>>>this information?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>>>"Schuldt, Ron L" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>ebSOA Team,
>>>>>
>>>>>On Monday and Tuesday of this week, I participated in an "invitation
>>>>>only" Enterprise Information Integration (EII) workshop that was
>>>>>sponsored by the Defense Logistics Agency. The focus of the EII
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>workshop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>was semantics integration solutions to solve a case study (but real
>>>>>world problem) involving legacy systems. Approximately 55-60 "thought
>>>>>leaders" were invited to the workshop. The attendees represented the
>>>>>following -- DoD, the military services, other government agencies,
>>>>>prime contractors (Lockheed Martin and Boeing), IT vendors (IBM,
>>>>>Microsoft, Unicorn, MetaMatrix, Contivo, Network Inference, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>others),
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>standards bodies (X12, IEEE, ebXML and W3C) and recognized experts on
>>>>>the topics of OWL, RDF, Topic Maps, UDEF, and other semantics
>>>>>integration concepts and technologies.
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition to an outstanding keynote presentation by Jeff Pollock on
>>>>>the subject of semantics integration, the outbriefs by the three teams
>>>>>warrant your review - see http://www.meiim.com/eii_events.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Following several presentations on Monday morning, the attendees were
>>>>>divided into three teams and each was asked to solve the same case
>>>>>study. Although the case study was fictitious, it illustrated a real
>>>>>world condition involving legacy systems. You can gain some insight to
>>>>>the problem by looking at http://www.meiim.com/enter_EII.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>All three workgroups were assigned the same case study titled "DoD
>>>>>Widget Procurement System (WPS)." Within a four hour time span, each
>>>>>team was expected to develop an overview of the proposed plan and
>>>>>approach; develop an AS-IS characterization of the existing WPS
>>>>>environment; develop a TO-BE systems architecture; discuss how the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>plans to overcome some of the obstacles cited in the case study; and
>>>>>project downstream cost savings and cost avoidance opportunities.
>>>>>
>>>>>The outbriefs by each team contained some common key elements within
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>TO-BE architecture - specifically the need for a "loosely coupled"
>>>>>metamodel (based on an ontology) and the use of OWL and RDF. Each team
>>>>>briefed the DLA customer who was very pleased with the product
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>developed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>by each team. For reference, I was part of team #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMHO the outbriefs by the three teams plus the presentation by Jeff
>>>>>Pollock provide a solid starting point for any discussions regarding
>>>>>"shared semantics" by this list.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Schuldt
>>>>>Senior Staff Systems Architect
>>>>>Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems
>>>>>11757 W. Ken Caryl Ave.
>>>>>#F521 Mail Point DC5694
>>>>>Littleton, CO 80127
>>>>>303-977-1414
>>>>>ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:33 PM
>>>>>To: ebSOA
>>>>>Subject: Re: [ebsoa] SOA and Shared Semantics
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for giving me a useless answer that does not even come close
>>>>>to addressing my question below, not once but twice. I obviously do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>even remotely get your point.
>>>>>
>>>>>Frankly, I am looking for answers that I can convey to my US federal
>>>>>clients, not (with all due respect to the efforts) some set of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>acronyms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>that they are not even going to have heard of, because the efforts are
>>>>>either too bleeding-edge for me to offer, or they have not been widely
>>>>>enough embraced by the federal community and/or vendors to make them
>>>>>appealing.
>>>>>
>>>>>If we cannot get straight answers to simple, straightforward questions
>>>>>like the ones that I posed below, I believe that the chances of this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>TC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>being successful are - at this point - 2% at best. I hope we can
>>>>>increase that soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>David RR Webber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's my whole point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The BCM/EPR work does provide a very broad
>>>>>>set of usage scenarios.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe we need to build from a solid foundation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If we just run after isolated aspects - we will
>>>>>>lose the opportunity to provide a coherent
>>>>>>solution set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is why I'm focusing on areas that provide
>>>>>>such coherence to provide a sensible set of
>>>>>>base requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Quoting Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How about in more general terms, stepping aside for a moment from
>>>>>>>specific emerging initiatives - I'm thinking more generally, such
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>as:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>>what role should ontologies play? Why are they important in this
>>>>>>>context? How about metadata registries? etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David RR Webber wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At this juncture I would like to point out
>>>>>>>>that the BCM/EPR team is preparing a set of
>>>>>>>>requirements for submission to ebSOA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This stems from the work and meetings in
>>>>>>>>Norway over the past two weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And indeed semantic information is a
>>>>>>>>significant part of this - not only
>>>>>>>>for common understanding - but also
>>>>>>>>when used to create ontologies and
>>>>>>>>topic maps for discovery and reuse
>>>>>>>>of components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The essence of the BCM/EPR needs can
>>>>>>>>be distilled in part from the PPT
>>>>>>>>presented in Norway - available
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from http://www.eprforum.org
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>However - we are working on formalizing
>>>>>>>>the exact mechanisms and base requirements
>>>>>>>>so that an ebSOA based set of components
>>>>>>>>can support an BCM/EPR deployment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's obviously good to be able to focus
>>>>>>>>on a real deployment model - to be able
>>>>>>>>to hone exact requirements, and
>>>>>>>>combination of requirements - rather than
>>>>>>>>things being noted in a piecemeal fashion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks, DW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Quoting Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is this a topic that we're planning on including in our spec?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>(I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>think
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>we should) We can emphasize the role of ontologies in helping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>ensure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"shared semantic understanding" between participants in an
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>SOA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>>>>>>>Associate
>>>>>>>>>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://drrw.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>>>>>Associate
>>>>>>>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://drrw.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>>>Associate
>>>>>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>>Associate
>>>>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>Senior Standards Strategist
>>Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>http://www.adobe.com
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