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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Groups - Provisional Charter (Draft)(NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc) uploaded


I personally want to separate the RM work from ebsoa.  ebsoa has a  
connotation that I am no longer interested in propagating.

-Matt

On 7-Dec-04, at 8:03 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:

> David:
>
> That is a subject for discussion tomorrow.  What we may want to do is  
> to have the constituency that wants to complete this work keep working  
> on it while a separate group does the work on an SOA Reference Model  
> that is not ebXML or Web Services.
>
> I am sure that if people are willing to complete the work we started,  
> we will elect to do that and leave the current TC in place.  It would  
> be nice to do both if there are sufficient hordes willing to do the  
> work.
>
> ;-)
>
> Duane
>
> David RR Webber wrote:
>
>> Duane,
>>
>> I believe this dog does not hunt.
>>
>> First - the whole topic of SOA is too vast an ocean to attempt to  
>> boil -
>> especially
>> in only 18 months.
>>
>> Second - the whole original point was to start from the basis of ebXML
>> architecture
>> and to leverage that five years worth of work, of which you were an  
>> integral
>> part.
>>
>> Third - the ebXML architecture is really coming into focus  
>> beautifully now
>> with
>> the work on BPSS V2, context, CPA V3, CAM, noun semantics, Federated
>> Registry,
>> harmonizing web service methods with ebXML, BPMN and more - so this  
>> is the
>> perfect
>> opportunity to provide rapid progress in a six month time frame - Q1  
>> - Q2
>> 2005 that is
>> a golden opportunity not to be missed.
>>
>> Fourth - if you really really really want to go off and pursue the  
>> ocean of
>> SOA - I would
>> respectfully suggest that is a new TC effort entirely - and one which  
>> you
>> are obviously
>> free to start in addition to the ebSOA TC as the OASIS process allows.
>>
>> However - I believe the constituency here wishes to complete the work  
>> on
>> ebSOA first
>> before launching out into another ocean.
>>
>> The latest BPSS V2 specification is a diamond and we can do much to  
>> support
>> the
>> watershed achievement and show the world how to take advantage of  
>> these
>> powerful
>> tools for creating ebSOA systems.
>>
>> Cheers, DW
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <dnickull@adobe.com>
>> To: <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:46 PM
>> Subject: [ebsoa] Groups - Provisional Charter (Draft)
>> (NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc) uploaded
>>
>>
>>
>>> The document named Provisional Charter (Draft)
>>> (NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc) has been submitted by Duane Nickull  
>>> to the
>>> OASIS Electronic Business Service Oriented Architecture (ebSOA) TC
>>>
>> document
>>
>>> repository.
>>>
>>> Document Description:
>>> Draft of potential new charter for re-chartering group.
>>>
>>> Download Document:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebsoa/download.php/ 
>> 10488/NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc
>>
>>> View Document Details:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebsoa/document.php? 
>> document_id=10488
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
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> ***********
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> http://www.adobe.com
> Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
> Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC -  
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
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