RE: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter

[<tmathews@lmi.org>]

David - 

I am new to ebXML, but I have been on-board the ebSOA since the charter.
I think your idea is sound and we should explore further on the call
today, e.g. to stick with the current TC and work within the bounds of
it to create a SC to address the important work of the SOA reference
model.  This reference model could then be used to redefine the ebXML
Technical Architecture.

Is it really worth all the time it will take to start a new TC?  The new
TC is such a major change in charter from the original intent, that I
wonder if we shouldn't reexamine this.

Thanks,
TM

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:20 AM
To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org; peter@justbrown.net
Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter

Peter,

I believe it just depends on how many volunteers we have to do all the
work.

To create a new TC is a full months worth of effort for one person.,
dealing with all the daily interchanges to pull that together (the OASIS
procedural steps are very deceptive of the actual level of effort
needed).

We should first consider forming a sub-committee with a specific charter
to go research the Ref Model topic and report back.  This is much much
faster to orchestrate and do - (and there is plenty of precedent for
that - eg UBL TC, BCM TC, ebMS TC, etc, etc).

This buys you a ton of time too - during which a new TC effort can be
hauled into place if hands are willing to man and run that.

As for putting the ebSOA work on ice - I believe the opposite applies -
we now have the BPSS V2 work completing and Registry V3 and the need is
urgent to instruct people on how to take advantage of a complete context
driven
ebSOA system.   Sure there are interim questions - but nothing that is a
complete show-stopper - that can be refined and improved later once a
more Ref Model is available.

The old adage of not changing horses in the middle of the race is key
here.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message -----
From: <peter@justbrown.net>
To: <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:57 AM
Subject: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter


> I must give my formal apologies for absence from the confcall later
today,
and thus submit my meeting contribution in writing.
>
> Main observations:
>
> My vote would be for a completely new TC, and would thus associate my
OASIS membership with the proposed charter as a sponsor.
>
> Equally, I would vote for putting current ebSOA TC on ice during the
period of the new TCs mandate.
>
> It might be useful to establish liaisons at an early stage, both
within
OASIS and beyond (W3C, ISO, CEN, OMG?)
>
> I would keep the TC scope and mandate tight, and have only the Ref
Model
as a deliverable, but with an "open door" to spin off other work, *when*
this is done.
>
> As I witnessed following some of the ISO Topic Maps Reference Model
debates, the whole world of context-specific implementations and
specializations becomes a whole lot easier once your reference model is
in
place, rather than trying to extract a ref model from already
contextualised
implementations and models.
>
> Once the reference model is completed - under a tight timeframe - my
preference is for twelve months - then we can allow ourselves the luxury
to
commission specialisations of the reference model
>
> I am particularly interested in the semantic and "data/information"
aspects of the model.
>
> Good luck with the meeting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter