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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter
Matt, Sounds like your horse has stopped and is also browsing on the grass along the fence and accepting sugar lumps from passers-by too! Horse racing is just not what is used to be ; -) DW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com> To: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info>; <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>; <peter@justbrown.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter > David, > > We discussed making this a subcommittee, and the consensus was that it was > not a good fit. The concept of ebSOA needs to extend from SOA-RM. From my > point of view, future ebSOA work needs to be based off of SOA-RM. > > Re: horse race analogy -- our horse has no blinders on, and the result is > that it keeps trying to socialize with the children at the fence. > > -matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:20 AM > To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org; peter@justbrown.net > Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter > > Peter, > > I believe it just depends on how many volunteers we have to do all the work. > > To create a new TC is a full months worth of effort for one person., dealing > with > all the daily interchanges to pull that together (the OASIS procedural steps > are > very deceptive of the actual level of effort needed). > > We should first consider forming a sub-committee with a specific charter to > go research the Ref Model topic and report back. This is much much faster > to orchestrate and do - (and there is plenty of precedent for that - eg UBL > TC, > BCM TC, ebMS TC, etc, etc). > > This buys you a ton of time too - during which a new TC effort can be hauled > into place if hands are willing to man and run that. > > As for putting the ebSOA work on ice - I believe the opposite applies - we > now have the BPSS V2 work completing and Registry V3 and the need is > urgent to instruct people on how to take advantage of a complete context > driven > ebSOA system. Sure there are interim questions - but nothing that is a > complete show-stopper - that can be refined and improved later once a > more Ref Model is available. > > The old adage of not changing horses in the middle of the race is key here. > > Thanks, DW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <peter@justbrown.net> > To: <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:57 AM > Subject: [ebsoa] Comments on New Charter > > > > I must give my formal apologies for absence from the confcall later today, > and thus submit my meeting contribution in writing. > > > > Main observations: > > > > My vote would be for a completely new TC, and would thus associate my > OASIS membership with the proposed charter as a sponsor. > > > > Equally, I would vote for putting current ebSOA TC on ice during the > period of the new TCs mandate. > > > > It might be useful to establish liaisons at an early stage, both within > OASIS and beyond (W3C, ISO, CEN, OMG?) > > > > I would keep the TC scope and mandate tight, and have only the Ref Model > as a deliverable, but with an "open door" to spin off other work, *when* > this is done. > > > > As I witnessed following some of the ISO Topic Maps Reference Model > debates, the whole world of context-specific implementations and > specializations becomes a whole lot easier once your reference model is in > place, rather than trying to extract a ref model from already contextualised > implementations and models. > > > > Once the reference model is completed - under a tight timeframe - my > preference is for twelve months - then we can allow ourselves the luxury to > commission specialisations of the reference model > > > > I am particularly interested in the semantic and "data/information" > aspects of the model. > > > > Good luck with the meeting. > > > > Regards, > > > > Peter > > > >
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